Grave Encounters Analysis & Recap: Tunnel Rat Tartare (feat. Grimly)

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Welcome back to the place where it is perpetually spooky season. Today we have a special episode. It's not a Terrorific episode. It is a joint episode. I'm joined by Missy and Meg, hosts of the podcast Grimly. Hello. Hello. Thanks for having us. I am good. So good. Can't wait for this. I feel like we haven't been talking for the last two hours, but we are really good. Yes. Yeah. We are on a marathon session right now. Yeah. It's so good to see you. I feel like I haven't seen you in so long. I know.

That 10 minute break. That 10 minute break was just too long. Yeah. Too long for us. Too long. Yes. Yes. Grimly. So this is my first time. having any other voice on the Terrific feed. Really? Oh my god, I'm honored. I'm very honored. I already said this. In a room by myself, talking to myself out loud for hours on end. So now I can actually talk to other people and not feel like I'm crazy. Descending into madness. Yeah. Yeah, totally. In one of the episodes. Right? What's the name of the asylum in Grape Encounters?

Uh, ooh. Not Overbrook. Collinsworth. Collinsworth, yes. Something. Well, I'm Meg. Calling something. I know it can be hard to tell us apart by voice. You think so? Uh -huh. Okay. It can be. Yeah. All right. Not unless you know it. See, I'm Meg. Yeah. Yeah, we're two idiots, so we apologize if we're going to bring down the... Just your audience. No, this is what we're here for, you know, to give them a little bit something different. A little spice. Yeah. Break up the monotony of always having to listen to me only.

Yeah, have a little spice of idiocracy. brought into it. I'm ready. I'm very excited. Looking forward to it. When I do my episodes, since it's just me, it's a lot more rigid, I would say. I take a lot of retakes and re -recordings trying to get things just right. It's really hard to do retakes in front of people. It is. That's totally fine. Go with the flow when you've got other people. I think that would be fun. You heard me take at least 10 retakes when I did my episode. Yes, yes. You did good.

No judgment over here is my point. You did really good. Thank you. I hope to do even a fraction as well as you did, so we shall see. No promises, though. I think this will be a very fun episode. Me too. I am really excited. So Grimly and Terrorific were both part of the Creators Collective. So we are our, what's the word I'm looking for? Comrades, perhaps? Yes. Brothers in arms. Sisters in Arms. Why don't you tell the folks where you can be found? Yeah, so we are in Wondery. We are part of the Black Cat FM network.

And then we are also available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, YouTube. We just have YouTube Music and we're on YouTube. It's just like an audio podcast. We don't do video because I don't know how people do both. It just seems like so much work. To edit both? To edit both. Yeah, totally. Yes, and then we were also available on Wondery. And we release every Monday. Yep, a weekly pod. We are a weekly pod. Where Missy does all the work. And I just show up and say, don't shit. Yeah, mix here for the vibes.

Someone asked me what the pod's about recently. And I described it as, if you like unsolved mysteries, dick jokes and have um a deep hatred for donald trump and the patriarchy you'll probably really like us that is a good synopsis yes that's not bad yeah thank you thank you i thought so um so yeah we yeah every week we post a different story different topic we do a lot of like missing person cases we do a lot of haunted locations which is kind of the inspiration for this collab is um the haunted location we talked about in the last or in our episode And, yeah, I mean, we've been doing it for, what, two years?

Two years. For two years, yeah. We just hit episode 100. We're doing a Heaven's Gate series. Congrats. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, and that's kind of the gist, I would say. Yeah. All right, so this is part two of our collab. So part one, if you haven't listened to that, you should. But by we, I mean Missy and Meg went through. The inspiration for the film we'll be covering today. Yes. 2011's Grave Encounters. Hell yeah. Sorry, chomping at the bit to talk about it. This is one of my favorite scary movies.

It's good. It's good. I think it's maybe a little dated now, I will say. It feels like a, I don't know. I think because so many other movies have tried to do what this movie did, it now seems like, oh, well, I've seen this before. But when it came out, I feel like it was really a very scary movie. Like, truly. Like, it freaked me out. Yeah. I think that's probably the best gauge you can have. I know you have a whole scoring system, but I will... The threshold for good horror is to be freaked out.

Yeah, totally. Either that or it doesn't. Yeah, yeah. It's very subjective, too. So, one to five, what would you rate it? Ooh, I would probably give it, I'd probably give it a four. Four, okay. Four out of five. Four out of five. Wow. Yeah. Maybe just because of nostalgia. Well, you said it's one of your favorites. It is one of my favorites. I'm just saying. It isn't like the scariest movie, I will say, but I do think just the scenario that those people are in is just inherently very, very scary.

Accurate. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Meg, did you watch it too? I did watch it. I was on the airplane, so. Yeah, she was traveling for work, and so she was coming home. Yeah, I saw, like, 90 % of it. God damn it. 90 % of it. I know, that's so funny. You surprised me. All right, so of that 90%, how would you rate it, one to five? It's a two for me. A two? Okay. That's going to be a two, dog. I don't know. I have to confess, I don't know, like, all the niche, like, rate, like, how you rate movies. So, like, for me, if someone's like, is it a two out of five?

What is it out of five? It's a two out of five for me. Interesting. It's a two out of five. Sorry. Okay. I mean, I didn't make it, so you don't have to apologize to me. I just like the movie. That's perfectly fine. If you, like, was creative and, like, directed it and was, like, written the story and you gave it a two out of five, sure, that'd be pretty pissed. Okay. Yeah. Sorry to the writers out there who wrote this movie. I gave it a three, so we're all... Pretty much in the same. Yeah. On the average, I guess.

Yeah. You, you trusted. So yeah. You know? Yeah. Totally. I honestly feel like a three from you is pretty good. Yeah. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. What there is, what does your fives out of fives? Do you have like a list out there? Um, so I recently got onto Letterboxd. So since I think I, I think I just got on there maybe like September, October timeframe, probably October. In October, I'll watch, like, I try to do 31 horror movies in the month of October. Right, I remember that. You were toasted after that.

That's a lot of work. Bro, it's a lot. It's a lot. I don't know why I put myself through this. You're like, never again. Yeah, yeah. Maybe this year I'll do, like, 20 or something or 15. We'll cut it in half. You're going to run out of movies. Yeah, like 13 days of Halloween. That's Christmas. That's definitely more manageable. That's not a bad idea. I think that's Christmas, actually. You're right. Oops. Whatever. Yeah, five stars, though. I think the only one I've given five stars to has been Bring Her Back.

I really liked Bring Her Back. Yeah. You haven't seen it yet. I did see it. Oh, did you see it? Not a fan. No, I... Okay, I do think it's scary. It just... There's something about those two people who write those movies, because they also did talk to me, right? Same characters? Yes. Yeah, the Philippou brothers. I don't like how they write characters. I think I've talked about this in our last episode. I'm like, I don't like having someone to root, not having someone to root for. Okay. And I feel like all of the characters they write are very insufferable.

And I'm like, I don't care if you talk. You're so fucking annoying. She's such a Virgo, I swear. You're fucking all annoying me so much. I don't even care anymore. Like, the sister pissed me off in that, how she just, like, instantly trusted this, like, woman instead of her brother, who was, like, doing his best to protect her. I was like, girl, what are you doing? And, like, shoved him in that room. Yeah, she was a monster. He was a monster. And, like, it, yeah, maybe it pissed me off, and maybe that was just my reaction to it.

I was just pissed. I'm like, this, like, everyone sucks. Like, and so I think it's hard for me. The knife scene, though, is the worst. That I I was I watched it in the theaters. And yeah, you I just had never been in a situation where every single person around us was like, so we're all uncomfortable. We're looking at each other like, what the fuck is happening right now? Like the sounds. It is the sound right now. Yeah. Yeah. It was very good. Like that. Like, you just don't see stuff like that.

No, no. And that is like probably a good. like kind of way to like i mean like the fact that we all remember the sound yeah does speak to like how good that movie is and so i think i'm just maybe i'm an outlier i will say because i do think a lot of people what would you have rated it out of five i still probably would have rated it high because i can see the potential and i can see why people liked it yeah i'd probably give it like a three and a half or four um but i just don't think that movie is for me okay i think it just annoyed the shit out of me i think that's fair I also really didn't like the newest Leonardo DiCaprio movie for the same reason.

Like, all the characters were just so fucking annoying to me. The one that just won the Oscar. I tried to watch it. One battle after another. Yes, thank you. Yeah, I was just like, why is everyone an idiot? Like, what is happening? Judgmental. I am very judgmental. What about when they're intended to be idiots, though? Do you take that into account? Um... I think really the only time for me... I think it's funny. I think when people are intended to be idiots, I think it's in the comedy. I have to be able to laugh at them.

Maybe just because we deal with too many idiots in the real world now, and I'm like, I can't watch this on TV as well. This is too real. This is too real. This is too real life. I don't want to watch idiots on TV. Maybe. Maybe. If something's a satire, does that make it automatically a comedy by default? Because is a comedy funny? Like, how do we decide? For me, it's like, then what is a comedy? Can you do satire, but it's not funny? I think it has to be funny. One battle after another would fall into that category.

Would you argue that? Maybe. A dramatic satire. Is that contradictory? I don't know. No. I don't know. I don't think so. It's unique. Yeah. I think this is a conversation for people who are way smarter than us. Or just, like, film nerds. Yeah, we're not film nerds. Neither am I. Neither am I. Yeah. We're getting philosophical about the movies, and I love it. Yes, yes. But we are not here for one battle after another. No, we are not. Although Leonardo DiCaprio is my favorite actor, side note, sidebar.

But yes, we're going to talk about Grave Encounters. Yes. All right, so let's dive into it. Let's do it. I love it. Yeah. All right. So as I said before, it's from 2011. It was written and directed by the Vicious Brothers, which if you're going to be a horror movie directing tandem, you could come up with worse names than the Vicious Brothers. Vicious Brothers is perfect. That's nice. That's nice. I looked up their other filmography, but Grave Encounters was like their big thing. Oh, interesting.

And the sequel. Oh, okay. They did a sequel to it. But the plot focuses, or it starts off, the movie starts off with a production company. They are producing reality TV shows, and their main guy gets a tape in the mail of a pilot episode of a new reality series called Grave Encounters. And this show is produced by a man named Lance Preston. And the premise is that Lance and his team of paranormal investigators would spend the night... I don't know why. In haunted locations and capture everything on camera, you could not pay me to spend the night in a haunted location.

I don't care what the amount is. Really? Write me a blank check. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Listen, obviously you would do it. I would do it. I would only do it if it was like a comfortable hotel bed and you paid me. Like, so I would do it. But it needs to be a place I'd want to sleep. It can be haunted, but can it also be cozy? I don't think you're sleeping when you're doing these, though. Yeah, how cozy is it going to be when ghosts are, like, tickling your feet and shit? Well, you're also there to capture evidence.

That's the whole point. You're there to capture evidence. You're working. I am also very much a night owl, and so I love to stay up late, and I love to be up at night. So I feel like this has also just worked better for me to be up all night watching or hunting ghosts. Fair. I also said in our previous episode that I would like to be a ghost hunter if I could. I guess I could make that happen. Yeah, absolutely. You can do anything you want to. Is that cheesy, though? Yes, it is. Is it corny? Okay.

If you believe, you can achieve. Other team members that assist Lance include Sasha, who is their resident occult specialist, Matt, who is their equipment tech, and TC, their cameraman. Also notably... The only black guy present, so... Oh, no! We probably know how things are gonna go for him, but I won't spoil it for you. I gotta say, off the bat, TC pissed me off the most in this fucking movie. Because he was, like, the worst type of scared. Okay, what does that mean? Look into it. I'm sorry. I feel like he was, like, the most realistic scared, though.

He was realistic. It may have been the worst. Yeah, well, I'll get to it later. Sorry, I'm gonna cut you off. No, you're good. So Lance and the gang, they get to episode six, which serves as the framework for the majority of the film. So they journey to a haunted asylum and things go awry, unsurprisingly. So Lance and his team apparently captured like 76 hours of footage that the production company then edited together, but did not doctor, according to them. Right, and they were clear about that.

And this is the raw footage. This is the tape they received. In the minutes. Anonymously, right? Yes, this is their raw footage. And then edited for time. Yes, is what he said. He's like, all of this is real, it's edited for time, that's it. Which, great premise. Great premise. So that establishes its authenticity for the fear that lies ahead. Right. So Lance and his team, they went to the Collingwood Psychiatric Hospital in Maryland. And it was open from 1895 to 1960. And during that time, it housed more than 80 ,000 mentally ill patients.

80 ,000 is a crazy fucking number. Sorry, do you swear on this podcast? Not at one time. Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. Definitely E for explicit. Sorry, I'm like, oh, God. Let me just make sure before I keep dropping that fuck. Fuck shit. Motherfucker. Asshole. Yeah, whatever you want to throw out there. Your ghost noise is penis, remember? Penis! This is my cursing outlet, because my wife doesn't like cursing, and I have kids, obviously. So I can't say anything in front of them, or let me rephrase, I don't say anything in front of them.

Yeah, you gotta do like The Good Place where you say Mother Forker. Mother Forker. Yes, that was a great show, by the way. That was a great show. Yes. So, yeah, during that 65 -year span, yeah, 80 ,000 people came through the doors. Closed in 1963, and then after that, people started reporting seeing ghosts and objects moving on their own and sometimes, quote -unquote, lunatic laughter. Very specific. Very descriptive. Laughter is a hard one, for sure. Yes, especially if it's a lunatic variety. I don't even...

I want to imagine what that sounds like. I'm so sorry. Coleman. Go lay down. Sorry, I brought a dog to the party. I had to close my doors to keep the cats out, otherwise they'd be here too. Marshmallow is our black cat. He's a very lap -heavy cat. I think he was a dog in his past life. He loves to curl up. He's a very, he's a charcoal. You won the lottery. Yes. I don't always like that. No, no. Her cats are fucking demons. Excuse me. Demon's fun. Not to me. Most of the time. Most of the time. I was waiting for you to clarify.

Finish that sentence. Yeah. So Lance and the team, they plan to lock themselves inside for eight hours, hoping to capture footage of what they call the ghost of Collingwood Psychiatric Hospital. But while they're filming some of their lead up footage, they interview a dude named Morgan Turner. And he's like a local town historian and provides information about the hospital's past. So it was built in 1893 to deal with overcrowding. But it became a way for people to offload family members that they found embarrassing rather than a means to receive true care.

So this is all due to a lack of understanding of mental illness at that time, which one can argue we still don't really understand today. Like when we talked about Overbrook, they called it the bin for a reason, unfortunately. Collinswood had horrid living conditions and there were people sleeping on the floor without blankets and sometimes they even didn't have clothes. Just to give a little bit of like a historical lens, I think the like the no clothes and stuff, I think specifically was Pennhurst State School and Asylum, which we talked about.

long time ago in one of our episodes i think it was like episode seven yeah um yeah and that one had some really really like more horrific conditions than like the place we just talked about the overbrook and that's why i think that this is heavily based on the ghost adventures episodes of those three locations uh penhurst waverly and the overbrook so yeah just my my little um my two cents no that's good to know you're filling in the blanks that i would not have filled in myself so I am the Ghost Adventures expert, I guess, in this episode.

Resident. Which is really sad for me. So if the Pennhurst was episode seven, what episode are y 'all on right now? We just released 100. Yeah, we're in the middle of episode 100. 100 episodes. Yeah. That's crazy. So Pennhurst was 93 episodes ago. It's crazy. So y 'all are listening to some vets in the podcasting game because Terrific, we're 28 episodes in, so 100. Respect. Yeah, yeah. I want to be like you when I grow up. Thanks. I try so hard, I'm not going to lie. That's okay. It's good. You know what?

There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, putting in the effort, you know? Yeah, for sure. Okay, so Arthur Friedkin was the lead doctor at the Collingwood Hospital. And he is a very infamous person, apparently. So he was a neurologist who studied at Harvard. And he was the head physician at Collingwood from 1937 to 1948. And he became notorious for his work in experimental brain surgery. Ooh, we don't like that. Don't like that. Yeah. Yeah, man's was all about lobotomies, and under his supervision, slash his direct performance of these lobotomies, 140 of them were performed.

Roughly. You know, there were some days where I just could go for a lobotomy. You could take one to go for a lobotomy. If it was reversible. it was just like taking a drug like just taking the drug you're like you know what i need today some listen it's barbaric and terrible but i think some some of them probably by dumb luck like actually like functional yeah or helpful in some way but like yeah Yeah, no, most were not. Were really horrific. We talked about Rosemary Kennedy in one of our episodes and how she was lobotomized because she was - True story, yes.

Acted out a little bit as a Kennedy woman and her father had her lobotomized and it was - She was never the same. Never the same. She was basically handicapped after that. Yeah, yeah. It really, really fucked her up. It's really, really sad. It's a bad thing. Yeah. History of lobotomy is real, real, real dark. Yeah, I don't want to be a part of the medical trials of anything. No, no. I want to know. I want to know what's working. I could live, laugh, and lobotomy sometimes. Live, laugh, lobotomy.

We may have an episode title right there. I need to be a sign. On August 15th, 1948, six patients broke out of their rooms and they stabbed Friedkin to death in his office. But this didn't make headlines because a certain baseball player by the name of Babe Ruth died the very next day. Wow. Okay. Babe Ruth stole all the shine from Friedkin getting fucked over there. I would argue he maybe deserved it. You know. It sounds like it. Yeah, maybe those lobotomies came. Those are like the sane patients.

They were like, I'm clapping back, bitch. We're not going to get out of this building, but we can get out of this room. Yeah, that's right. We can get out of our rooms. Heroes, I would say. Not all heroes wear capes sometimes. They just have lobotomies instead. Stray jackets. Yes. Not in this case. Hospital gown. Hospital gowns is probably a little more PC. Open hospital gowns to ass always out. You definitely cannot stab somebody in the straight. You could headbutt. A proper headbutt, you know?

Right, totally. But then, okay, so the next interviewee that Lance and his team speak to is the groundskeeper named Kenny Sandoval. So he pulls up to let them in the hospital and to give them a tour of the place. And there's a very ominous... writing on the front door says death awaits printed in or spray painted or written in like bright green letters and uh that's not a sign to get the fuck out of there i don't know what it is it is for me yeah that's a promise yeah that is our but our ghost hunting gang is not to be deterred you know they see this and say fuck death uh we're okay not me yeah they also all y 'all can die not us we're good Yeah, they make fun of it.

They're like, this is corny and cheesy. Oh, yeah. You know, like, which is so funny to me. They're like, oh, this is dumb. They're like, yeah, you know, like, we can just slap a weird filter and, like, you know, get some, like, we'll produce it up and make it look spooky. Like, even though it is cheesy and corny and dumb. And they're like, well, I think they're about to fuck around and find out. Yeah, you're gonna F .A .F .O. for sure. Yes, they will. So they ask Kenny if he believes in ghosts, and he tells them that over his eight years as a caretaker, he's seen some weird shit, especially at night.

The building is old, so it's pipes and all that stuff aside, he still heard some noises and had feelings that he's not alone in there. Yeah. And while he's giving them the tour, they go upside to the next floor. It's like a four or five level building. It's a big building. Yeah. He shows him this big -ass window up there, and he says that he'll lock it up at night, and then he'll come back in the morning to see it wide open, as if something or someone is trying to get out. I think that window plays more into it than we think, honestly.

I will... Sorry, I have a theory about the window, I will say. And I will... I'll add more to it later. I'm sorry. Can you get the... He will not stop licking my hand. And then he starts to whine every time I pull my hand away. I'm like, we cannot spend an hour of you constantly licking. I love you, but you're acting so weird today. So clingy. He's acting a fool. I'm sorry. Kenny also takes the gang into a former patient's room and there's a bunch of incoherent writing all over the walls. I made it a couple words like demons and death.

Yeah, okay. I was going to ask. Yeah, so dark stuff. Dark stuff. Sage is spooky. Yeah. Yeah, there's a few lines about demons being in the walls themselves as well, which is foreshadowing. Yeah, was it there before? Like, I don't know. Just so many questions. So many questions about that. So many questions. Like, was the demon already there when it was built? You know? Or, I mean, I guess maybe not. I don't know, Maryland, probably some ancient... Yeah, maybe some weird shit was on the grounds that they built it on, I don't know, you know?

Yeah. The tour gets even better, because Demons in the Walls is not good enough, apparently, so Kenny takes them into a bathroom where a young patient climbed into a bathtub and killed herself in said bathtub. That one's messed up. Yeah, that one is messed up. And then people have since claimed to have heard sounds of splashing water coming from that room when they go to visit. Creepy. So... Yeah, you don't want to be in an empty room and hear... That's such a distinct sound. Yeah. Like... Yeah, that's creepy.

Especially, like, someone splashing water on a bathtub. Yes. That's kind of what it sounded like. They were kind of, like, um... alluding to. It was, like, people, like, someone, like, slashing around. Yeah, like, they're, like, moving, like, kind of, like, water splashing and, like, when you move around the bathtub. Yeah. Which kind of let it sound like they were alluding to, which is creepy as fuck. I don't want to hear that. Mm -mm. When no one's around? Yeah. And there's no water in the bathtub?

Spooky. No water in the bathtub. No. It could be a raccoon, you know? If there was water in the bathtub, it just could have been a raccoon trapped. Sure. But if it's an empty bathtub in an empty bathroom, and... There should be no water sound. No. No. But a side note, if you or anyone you know is experiencing or struggling with thoughts of suicide or self -harm, please call or text 988 to talk to someone and get help. Yes, please do. You're not alone. No. Yeah. And things can get better. All right.

Moving forward. So while they're getting this tour, Lance is basically just creaming his pants this entire time. So he's very excited to hear about all this potential for paranormal activity, which if that were me. I would not be doing the same. No, you are not excited. No. You're not in the sewer at all. Like, you're just not here. As soon as I saw Death of Waits, I definitely would have gone back to the car. I'll wait there, you know. I'll have my walkie -talkie, and y 'all can tell me what y 'all see.

But, yeah, I'm not going in there. I mean, I wouldn't even travel there to begin with, to be honest. Not even as, like, a historical tour? No. No. Probably not. From the outside, Yeah, sure, I guess. But inside tour? Nah. We'll get on that. No? Not during the daytime? In the daylight? On, like, a nice sunny day? Just, like, here? It's spooky. It's still spooky. Okay. Okay. Probably not. I did, like, a voodoo tour in New Orleans one time. Yeah! And that was cool. Yeah. But that seemed more cultural, and this seems more scary shit.

I don't do scary shit. Right, like, we're just trying to, like, focus on one. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. sure like fictional scary shit yeah all day every day but the potential real scary shit no thank you ever on any day totally okay but lance yeah he's uh yeah he's bricked up right now hearing about all this stuff so bricked up love that and then kenny takes them down into the surface tunnels after that and these tunnels run between the buildings and keep them all connected on this you know massive compound similar to the uh the overbrook yeah that was pretty common in like most of the those um old asylums like that is they had the all of them had like an underground tunnel system at least like Waverly did, Pennhurst did, Overbrook did.

I think it was just kind of a classic way to just move stuff around. And maybe because of those areas that got really, really intense weather sometimes, to be able to move throughout buildings without having to go outside is also part of it as well. But yeah, the tunnel systems and those things are crazy. And it happens in all of them, which is creepy as fuck. So dark. Hella creepy. Kenny tells the mother down in the tunnels how one day he was walking down there and the air suddenly got really cold and still.

And he felt like he was being watched. No, thank you. No, thank you. Yeah, the deep, dark tunnels and feeling like you're being watched. Just gross. Not into it. Not into it. I'm not completely stupid, you guys. I guess that's my point. There's a line there. There is a line. Take a weapon. Oh, for sure. But what are you going to do against the ghost? I'm saying the weapon won't do anything for you. A super soaker filled with holy water. Okay. So you're going to get the vampires. Maybe the ghost.

Do they use holy water in the... Yeah, does holy water work on ghosts? What if the ghost is like a religious person? It's still a ghost. You can do nothing about a ghost attack, and that's all I'm saying. You are at their mercy. If you bring a weapon, they're probably going to kill you with that weapon. Probably. I'd say you're better. You can't kill me with a super, super filled with holy water. I'm stripping everything off. I'm going in their butt naked. They got nothing to use against me. That's crazier than what I said.

That's my tactic, okay? You have yours. I'm, all right. I respect it. Mine's commando. That's an interesting method of fighting ghosts. We shall see who gets, yeah, we'll see who gets out. If I'm just as crazy as they were, then we're all just one big family. Like, we're all just in it. All right. Okay. They're like, she's one of us inside. One of us, okay, yeah. She's not, she's in crossover yet, but we see it. We see it. I would take a weapon. I would take a weapon. Because if the ghost has to materialize to harm you, right?

Totally. At that moment, then you can strike back, right? Fine. Yeah. Okay. Just like a pipe filled with sand, you know? Something. Something. Okay. Yeah. Not a gun. Don't bring a gun. Bring something like a blunt instrument. A blunt. Yes. Yes. I would bring a blunt, actually. Meg is naked, walking in the halls. Naked with a blunt. With a blunt. First we had Naked and Afraid, now we have Naked and Blunted. Alright, that's it. Probably wearing sunglasses. I'm having a good time. It's a party now, honestly.

Oh god, I'm so sorry, Brandon. No, no, this is what we're here for. Yeah. Next interview is a guy named Gary. They're going through a lot of interviews here before they do their lock -in situation. And I will say, Ghost Adventures, what this movie is based off of, TV show, they do also do a good amount of interviews initially, too. It's the fill time for nothing else. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. The amount of action in the movie is not that much. I don't know. A third of it? Two thirds? Yeah. Anyways, keep going.

So they're speaking to Gary Crawford of Crawford Contracting. So the state hired him for renovations back in 1993. And he and his guys were on site for about two weeks and experienced some spooky shit. So some guys heard weird noises and tools started disappearing overnight. If I'm a ghost, why am I stealing tools? Why is that the way you want to troll somebody to steal their tools? I mean, it's just a way to troll somebody. I don't think it really has a right reason. I just want to mess with you.

Kind of naughty. Play with their hair, breathe on them or something. Wouldn't that be more fear -inducing than just stealing their tools? Because then you just think, oh, I'm just an idiot and I forgot my hammer. Maybe, you know. Maybe they need the tools, though. I don't know. Maybe there's some construction in the ghost realm. Some ghost construction. Yeah. They're trying to spruce the place. Probably not very stable, though. No. They're trying to build a sauna. That's what they're trying to do.

They deserve a sauna. They deserve a sauna. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, the tools started disappearing overnight, and then one guy was on a ladder doing some work. Then he had an accident where he swore he felt someone push him off the ladder. And this dude is probably the smartest guy in the film because he quits immediately after that. No questions asked. If I felt an invisible force push me off of a ladder, he's seen enough. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I can get another job. Totally. jizz pants lance that's what i'm calling from now on because he's still still creaming himself over all this activity he's really excited he's real jizz pants lance yeah he uh he points out that this sounds like an intelligent haunting versus a residual one so residual haunting yeah missy explained on our part one of this episode or this uh this this series So residual hauntings are more like echoes from the past looping over and over again.

Whereas intelligent hauntings involve a spirit that intentionally interacts with people and the environment. Yeah. They're like the bad kind. Yeah. They know you're there. Yeah. And it's usually not good. I don't like that. Yeah. That sounds very menacing. Yeah. Totally. And then, oh my God, there's so many interviews. So then the next one. Okay, I didn't realize there was this many. This is why I said it needed to be a two -parter. I was like, there's no fucking way we're doing this all in one episode.

Yeah, that would have been three hours long. I know, we've just been still talking. Yeah, totally. They're barely inside. Okay, so they're talking to some local cool kids. These kids are talking about how they snuck into the hospital to make out, which is that like... A horny, inducing environment like an abandoned, insane asylum. If your boyfriend wants to make out with you in scary places, he's a scary person. That's a red flag. Or your girlfriend, whomever, wants to be making out in weird places like this, I do not approve.

If they want to go explore, that's different. If they want to actually go and, you know. Listen, I think one time may be fine. If they want to keep going back to the scary places. Then we make out. This is a pattern. Yeah. They're probably going to kill you. They need some deep, deep therapy. Yeah. For sure. Something's up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But while they're making out, I guess he makes out with his eyes open, which is also another red flag. Another red flag. That's the biggest one, honestly. How about if I do a little bit of the eyes open and make out?

Oh, man. All right. A little great. That's your serial killer trait. But yeah, the guy sees a ghost dude standing at the end of the hallway. He's wearing a white hospital gown with a shaved head. So that killed the boner and they had to get him out of there. That'll do it. And I'm glad he did see it. I'm glad his eyes were open and he saw that and he'd get me out of there. Is that going to be your excuse? Valid point. Yes. Valid point. Yeah. That's her reasoning. Open. Then our last interview. Thank God.

Let me scroll down and make sure this is actually the last interview. Don't you lie to us. Listen, girl, this is your podcast. You do what you want. They speak to a local gardener named Javier Ortega and Lance tries to interview him about ghostly activity and it goes poorly because Javier is like, yo, I just started here, bro. Like, I haven't seen anything. So Lance is like, hey, I'll give you 20 bucks if you pretend that you saw something and you make up a story. And Javier's like... Fuck it. Why not?

So he makes up some story. Very, you know, generic. Saw a ghost over there in that corner. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I saw a ghost. So funny. He doesn't sell it at all. He's like, yeah, I saw a ghost. No, he just instantly changes his tune. He's like, yeah, over there. Saw a ghost. Good for you, Javier. What a businessman. Lance clearly doesn't really believe that any of this is real. So that is something to... take note of. I would argue that he does think it's real. I just think they haven't found anything, so they just have to keep making shit up.

Because I do think he really wants to find something real in this movie. I think he really articulates that at one point. Maybe we'll actually find something this time. But he's also making a movie or a TV show, so he has to make sure it's entertaining. Yeah. Okay. So, that's my argument for Lance. That's a fine line to balance, though. If you're just trying to make something entertaining, And you're willing to make things up to sell the entertainment. I know, I know. How much of a believer are you truly?

Yeah, this is why ghost hunting shows are really hard. Like, there's a lot of criticism of them, and I do agree with it. Because you can't, like, make ghosts do a thing when you're there, you know? Yep. They're like cats. Yeah, they might be on PTO. Yeah, they might be on PTO. Okay, and then Lance calls in their team's psychic medium. His name is Houston Gray. Pretty cool name there for a psychic medium. Totally. And he's here to assist with the investigation. And as Lance escorts him around the hospital, Houston really puts in a great performance.

He's really trying to sell this here. He does sell it. He's like, oh man, wow, I'm getting some energies over here. And Lance yells cut. And so they got to redo it again or whatever. So it's really showing that this is a TV show. It's a production. Yeah. And I don't really think it shows that like, they actually believe that they're going to capture anything. They're just really just trying to make a TV show at this point. We're just trying to make sure that we get the vibes right, that we're making sure that it's entertaining, that it is just solely a TV show.

Their stakes are very low, I think, when it comes to a haunting aspect. Or like a spooky factor, I think. At this point. Yes, it doesn't stay low for very long. No, it does not. Our tech guy, Matt, he sets up night vision cams around the place at all these hot spots. So the hallway, a patient's room, the bathroom, that window room, and the service tunnels. And he then runs through a breakdown of all their equipment. So they have tape recorders for their EVPs, their electronic voice phenomenon to capture those, thermometers to catch cold spots, and an EMF meter, which...

I'm not really quite sure what that is. An electromagnetic meter. It's supposed to, evidently, I mean, the theory is that ghosts are made of, um, electro, like, they're made of, like, the same, like, things that, like, um, an EMF meter would measure. Like, I don't know what you guys. And so the idea is, like, you walk around, like, a haunted location with an EMF meter, if you see a spike in the EMF meter, there might be a ghost in that room. Or in that, wherever you are, if there's a spike. If that makes sense.

Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. So the electromagnetic fields. If it's not clear, Missy is obsessed with ghost adventures. Obsessed is a strong word. That's why we're here. Obsessed is a strong word. Sorry. Big fan? I'm a big fan. Big fan. I'm a big fan of the previous season. I don't like the new stuff. Oh. A big fan would say that. The connoisseur. Whatever. I don't actually love the show, but I love that you love it. Thank you. That's what it's about. That's true friendship right there. And that's why we're here, really.

We all have our trash TV. You like the Bravo girlies. Oh, yes. And actually, in the Bravo universe, it has been a wild week. By the time we've made this, I'm not sure that much of our audience or your audience are aligned with me on this. But for those that are... This is the week that we found out about Scamanda. That's all I'll say. That's all I need to say. Everyone knows. Wait, like the podcast series Scamanda? Nope. Okay. Sorry. Keep going, Brandon. Love Island. This is for us. Okay. Sorry.

I have no idea. Love Island USA. That's my trash. That's yours? Yeah. We all have our things. It's a way for us to kind of plug. The USA is a choice. Yeah. We haven't watched it. So me and my wife, that's our Saturday routine. We'll watch Love Island, have a glass of wine, a couple glasses of wine. Very cute. But yeah, Love Island, USA. Peacock is expensive as fuck, so I want to cancel that. So we probably will transition to the UK one on a different service. The UK one is exactly the same, except that they say funny little...

Their words are funny. Wanker. Yeah. Yeah, they say other things. Fanny. Yeah. Well, oh. That's a naughty people. Sorry. So yeah, Kenny comes along then or wraps up the tour and he locks them in. Serious. Like really locks them in. Big ass padlock. T .C.'s fist. Sorry, that's part of the deal. They lock themselves in there? Yeah, that's also what they do in Ghost Adventures. They do that in Ghost Adventures too. Yeah, they really. That's where I'm nope out of that. They really commit. Don't lock me anywhere.

Yeah. Locked in until 6 a .m. the next day. So eight full hours. And it's pitch black in there. The only light they have is from the little stand they set up and then their cameras and their flashlights. So a lot of the scenes in the film are shot using night vision. Lance says they're in search of spirits that were unsettled in life and possibly unsettled in the afterlife. So he's looking for some chaos. He is looking for some chaos for sure. And going around these various hotspots, they're trying to communicate with the spirits using the tape recorder and trying to capture some EVP.

And Sasha sits herself in the patient's room by herself, all by herself, where all that wild ass scribbling is over the walls. And she's trying to get the spirit to respond. Lance goes into the bathroom and sits in that bathtub where the patient killed herself. In the bathtub. Also trying to feel a little bit more connected, I guess, to this spiritual realm. These people are ballsy. Yes, that is one word to use. Ballsy, stupid, however you want to put it. And then Matt demonstrates some common sense.

He's at the station monitoring all these various camera feeds and he asks why he has to be the one sitting by himself. Why am I alone? He wants some company here. Then down in the service tunnel, they go back down there and they hear some strange noises. And after investigating, they discover it's just a couple of rats. So Lance says this place is about as haunted as a sock drawer. Oh, no. It's pretty funny. He's jinxing himself. Super famous last words there, Lance. Yes. That's also a pretty funny line.

Yeah. And then finally, at 4 .26 a .m., that's when shit starts to pop off. I know, they were so close to being done. So close to being done. But the window cam captures the window opening up on its own very slowly, very creepily. And the team is downstairs at the time, and they're using... They're using a special light to look at some weird stuff on the walls. I don't even know what this was. It's like a black light. It looks like jizz to me. That's what I thought it was, too. Lance calls it residual ectoplasmic material, which definitely sounds like ghost jizz.

Ectoplasm pretty much is ghost jizz. You're right. Yes, a ghost came and jizzed on these walls, and now we're looking at it with our special black light. We're expecting it. We're not looking at it. or inspecting it with a black light. They're going for it. It's DNA composition. It probably took, like, a little taste test as well. You know, like, hmm. Ghosts in the corner, like, what the fuck are they doing? Very ectoplastic right here, yes. The ghost is like, yeah. The ghost is like, no. Like, the ghost is looking at them like...

You guys are fucking weird. I'm revealing too much about myself. Right here, let me give you some more ectoplasmic material to analyze real quick. Here you go. I can go again, I guess. I don't know. You can register for my OnlyFans account. Ghosts don't have refractory periods. Yeah, some ghost fans. So, the ghost is fuckable. I do save a theory about the window. Okay. Okay. Time to talk about the window. So the window that opens, right? And I would argue that the window opens, something comes in, and when Matt closes the window, he closes whatever came in into the building, and that's when everything goes south.

Sure. It did seem like, why would you close it if it was open? Because for me, it's like, whatever is in here wants to leave. Or they want it open. They want a little... Fresh air. Do you guys really feel like you need to keep closing and locking this thing that keeps opening itself? I say leave it open. Leave it open. I think it's very stupid that Matt closes it. Because I think with Matt closing it, it fucks all of them. He doomed everybody. That's an interesting theory. Thank you. I didn't think about it like that.

You bring me a real deep thought. Yeah. We're really deep thinkers over here at Grimbley, let me tell you. I believe it. Go listen to the Flatwoods Monster episode and we can confirm that for you. It's a good episode. Lance sends TC to go get some B -roll by filming the hallways and he comes across a wheelchair sitting in the middle of one of those hallways. Just objectively so fucking creepy. Yeah. Like, no one is not creeped out by that. That's like a classic spooky image. Period. Hella creepy.

Yeah. And TC is like, wow, how did we miss this the first time? Well, spoiler alert, probably because it wasn't there the first time. TC, yeah. I do think your brain just kind of makes sense. You're like, oh, we just must have missed that. Instead of being like, oh, something rolled that here. You're lucky I didn't trip over that. This big ass wheelchair in the middle of the hallway that we would have to walk around to get through the hallway. Wow. TC gets a phone call from his lady and he needs to help put their kid down for bed.

And while he does this, he puts the camera down on the ground and he has his back to the chair. And the camera captures footage of the chair moving on its own. But of course, TC misses this because his back's to it. So the audience is like, whoa, that's creepy shit. Could you imagine if you... In this scenario, like, they get out, and they go back and just watch all that B -roll, and they see the wheelchair moving, like, later. How fucking creepy that would be. Even just, like, after. Just being like, what the hell just happened there?

Oh, yeah. Like, just so, so creepy, no matter what. Yeah, if that was real life. Objects should not move on their own. No. Wild wheels. Yeah. Anything, I mean. Frowned upon. Zero out of ten stars. Do not recommend. Also, that kid is still up at 4 a .m. That's wild. That's true. Poor mom. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. I'm trying to think of, like, where in the world they would be. Oh, maybe, like, different time zones, but maybe. I don't know. Maybe I had, like, a bad dream. I got from a nightmare or something.

Yeah, maybe something. Oh, right, because he says something about monsters, right? He's like, oh, yeah, the monsters aren't real. Oh. Which is foreshadowing. Oh, no. Which is foreshadowing. Foreshadowing for real, dude. But he continues his exploration, getting his B -roll on his journey, and he walks into a room and comments on how cold it is right before the door slams behind him. And he thinks the crew is messing with him. Why do they always do this? Why are you guys fucking with me? I mean, because it's the first thing.

I guess it's the logical explanation. I don't know. They're not fucking with you. You're also hoping desperately that what's happening is not happening. I guess that's true. Yeah. They run up to where TC is and they're trying to get the ghost to slam the door again or show some other sign of its presence. So Lance is trying to talk to him and they're not really getting any feedback until they hear a loud bang. And then they go to investigate that. Again, if I'm hearing sounds in an abandoned ghostly hospital, I'm not investigating anything personally.

I would argue the bang is the evidence. Like, you don't need to go find, I guess. Right. Yeah. But they go to where that bang was, and they find an overturned gurney with its wheels spinning. Oh, yes. That's so creepy. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yes. So creepy. Like, the wheels still spinning is, like, this thing was absolutely moving. Yes. Like, this isn't, like, us. This just happened. Yeah, this literally just happened. We're not making this up. The wheels are moving. Great episode. Great episode for them at this point.

They have all they need at this point. They have all they need at this point, right? Yeah. Let the cameras that they already set up get the rest of the footage. They can just go huddle by the door. It was 426. Yeah, they literally had like an hour and a half. That was it. Like, we're done. We're good. And then they hear more sounds coming from a higher floor, so they go up there to... investigate yet again and houston is like if someone is here fucking with us we have a permit and you don't like what a thing to like go at somebody like we have a permit you're not allowed to be here like yeah all right bro it's very karen it's very karen of him very karen congrats on your paperwork uh houston what's that gonna do against the ghost yeah right and sasha tries the evp again and they hear some static this time before something grabs her hair from behind so you see her hair like lift up in the air like they'll let you yeah yep yep and so now shit's no longer fun um for her at least so she's like i'm ready to get out of here she's an intelligent woman yeah yeah it's like we have enough let's get the fuck out of here and houston wants to leave too um but lance tells him nah just like escort sasha downstairs but you come back up afterwards and houston's like man fuck i don't want to do that bro but Just Pants Lance is the boss, so they gotta listen to him.

Sometimes no is a full sentence, guys. Sometimes no is a full sentence. That's a bar right there. I need that on my next Grimley sticker. But again, Lance is Just Pants Lance. To be clear.

He is still creaming all over himself about this real paranormal activity. He is so Stoked. This is what he came for. It really is. Yes, this is his golden ticket to stardom. Assuming he doesn't get killed first. Yeah, like if I was making a ghost hunting TV show and this shit happened up to this point, I'm set for life. Set for life, bro. The books I'm gonna write. Yes. The conventions I'm going to speak at. Like, I am, you know, I'm gonna be booked and busy. He's the man. Booked, blessed, and busy is gonna be Lance after this.

That's what he's thinking. And I feel like this part kind of, like, aged better maybe than some of the other parts of the movie. Like, this whole notion that content over everything, that's what matters. Like, you're seeing all this crazy shit, this unexplainable shit, probably dangerous shit. No, we see people filming the craziest shit now and just get the likes and, you know, the comments and stuff. I guess people, like, just say the craziest shit just to get the comments. That's true. On their like, you know, whatever, on their social media.

So like, it's not really that out of pocket to think that someone would be like, yeah, let's fucking do this. Like, we're here. Let's do it. You know, let's keep going. I think my question is like, is he a true believer? Is he skeptic? I think he is a true believer. I just think he is maybe a little bit jaded from doing the TV show. I've never been hurt before. I've seen weird stuff. Right. But how bad can it get? Yeah. Yeah, but being jaded, though, from the TV show, could that have turned him into a skeptic now?

I got skeptic advice from him, big time. Yeah, same thing, but... I think he's maybe... If you really believe that this is really dangerous, I feel like you would be like, okay, for the safety of everybody, we should leave. It seems like the only reason he trudges into the abyss is because he's like, what's the worst that could happen? I think he trudges into the building thinking that nothing's going to happen, because he is a little bit of a skeptic who wants to believe. And then once... you know, maybe internally there's always been, like, this kind of confliction, and then he's, like, seeing it actually happen in real life.

He's like, holy shit, it's actually finally happening. It's occurring. And Nick is hopeful. He's excited about it. Like, I'm finally capturing something that I've always wanted to capture. Yeah, and maybe it just sneaks up on him how real it really is. Yeah, and I think eventually it almost is, like, a defense mechanism for him to, like, continue filming and, like, pretending it's still a TV show. Even when shit's going really south, he's like, This is just a TV show. It's okay. Like, we're going to get out of here.

Like, we're going to, you know, it's going to be fine. Like, but we have all the footage now. Like, it's almost like he's trying to, like, defend his own psyche. Sure. Pretending. Sure. A little bit. While inside of a... Very insightful. Thank you. That is very insightful. I think you should take over from here on out. Absolutely not. I'm loving sitting back. After begging the spirit to show another sign and getting nothing, Lance then snaps a few pictures and says they can go home, but they end up lost.

It seems like the hospital may be rearranging itself. No, I don't think I understood that. I didn't capture that. She was sending me reels as she was actively probably watching this movie. It's fine. Multitasking. Multitasking, yes. She's a multitasking queen. No, this is like, yeah, this is, I think. One of the more scarier parts of this movie. Now they're just trapped in there. Yeah. I like that. That's a very interesting concept. Yeah. Agreed. You're never going to get out. Death awaits, it says.

And then Lance and Matt try to reach each other on their walkie -talkies, but neither one was able to hear the other. So they're also scrambling comms in there. And at 6 .15, they all gather in the lobby ready for Kenny to come and let them out. But as they pack up and time passes, there's no sign of Kenny. And Matt goes to collect all the cameras by himself. Abso -fucking -lutely not. Yeah. By himself. Someone is coming with me. Yes. If anything else, just to help me carry out the fucking gear.

Like, what? A lot of gear. A lot of gear. It's like four floors worth of gear. Yeah. No way. At 723, there is still no sign of Kenny. And they also haven't heard from Matt in a while. So they're like, okay, maybe we should go look for him. So Lance, Sasha, TC, they go look for him while Houston hangs back by himself again. No, I'm not being by myself at any point in this scenario. Absolutely not. I'm going to be like a little baby monkey just clinging to somebody. Yeah. I need a buddy. I'm like the sloth that slowly reaches out.

And grabs you. And, like, pulls you in. And you're like, nope. We're together. We are one. We are staying together the entire time. Facts. But as they walk the halls looking for Matt, they find all of his equipment has been strewn along the floor. And now they make another decision to split up yet again. Stupid. They always split up. For what? Always split up, you know? And Sasha was like, no. Like, let's not split up. At that point, she's like, they're not going to listen to her. No, she's the only girl in the room, unfortunately.

Yeah. She's the only one that speaks ghost, by the way. Yeah. Should we listen to her? But Lance is like, Sasha, you come with me and TC, you go that way. And I would have never agreed to that. Especially because the way that TC gets more, as he gets more scared, as you said earlier, Missy. He just becomes a bigger asshole. He becomes an asshole. He just becomes such a dick. And the way he just yells at Houston and stuff, I'm like, girl, you're not helping. Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't do that here in this instance where you're like, hey, go by yourself.

No, absolutely not. I feel like this would have been the most justifiable situation to be an asshole. 100%, 100%. They're like, you can go by yourself. I'm like, I was Sasha. If you want people to split up, yeah. Got it, Lance. Not me, bro. But as TC walks around, he's on some stairs and he gets pushed down the stairs by something unseen. So now he begins to unravel. He's ready to get the fuck out of there. Yeah. He's so scared. And like, he's just such a dick after this. And like, it's hard to, I don't know, not be like, shut the fuck up, TC.

But it's also sad when he dies. No, it's not like I'm not sad. I'm just like, God, you're being such a dick. You're not helping. It's like the worst type of counterproductive. He's the worst type of scared. Where he's like lashing out at everybody. Sure. Because he's so scared. And it's just like, you're not going to actually be helpful to make sure we get out of here. You're actually making it worse. But I understand that you are scared. He just needs someone to talk to him. Give him a hug. I don't know.

Yeah. Be like, cry it out, girl. It's okay. But they make their way back to the lobby and they try to call Kenny, but there's no signal on their phones. And so there's a... gurney nearby that they grab and they start ramming the locked door with it and after a few attempts they're finally successful only to find themselves face to face with another hallway yes and this is like kind of like peak spookiness i think of the movie because like brandon you talk about a lot like why didn't you just leave?

In most episodes, there's a point where you just should have fucking left. And now they can't. Now they can't. Yeah, and it's just such a creepy, scary scenario. Because really, they just thought they were making a ghost show. They didn't think they would have to leave, right? They just thought some spooky show was happening. Now we can break the door and we can get out. And now the door leads to nothing. It's a maze. Yeah, it's literally a maze that keeps moving. And they can't leave. A labyrinth?

Is that what a labyrinth is? I think that is what a labyrinth is. A labyrinth, yep. But they're a little confused when they see this hallway. And they're like, wait, didn't we come in through this door? Isn't this the lobby? And as they turn around, they see that that door has Death Awaits written on it, just like it did when they first entered. Which is supposed to be the front entrance. Supposed to be the front entrance. They are fucked. They are big fucked. Big fucked. But they keep walking and they end up finding another locked door with an emergency exit sign over it.

And after kicking that door in, it reveals, you guessed it, another hallway. So they are big fucked. They're big time fucked. Yeah. Yes. All of them are just like in like slowly panicking. Yeah. You can see them kind of being like, what the hell? This doesn't make any sense. But like they're trying to like kind of. logic their way out of it, because they don't want to believe that they are fucked. It's just, I don't know, it's really just the scariest moment of the movie, I think. Mm -hmm, that tension started to ramp up for sure.

Yes, the tension really starts to build, and they're just like, what do we do? The time is now 834, and Lance says that the sun was supposed to be shining by 745, yet somehow it is still pitch black outside. So they are royally fucked. Oh, it's like daylight. Yeah. We are in a different dimension now. I think the window fucked them. They gotta go open that window. Get the hell out of there. And now the time stamp says it's 1 .12pm. So it's been a few hours. And so everyone was asleep taking a nap.

They take a lot of naps in this movie. They do take a lot. I mean, like, I can't. I've never seen people nap so much while being haunted. It's crazy. I mean, like, they're probably just in, like, adrenaline shock. And then, like, their bodies just, like, try to, like, calm down. And so, like, they're probably just exhausted. Maybe? It's a lot of sleeping. A lot of sleeping. Well, like, didn't, um, isn't this the point where Lance says that he sets an alarm for an hour? And he sleeps, like, seven hours at this point?

Yep. Yep. Yep, so yeah, everyone's asleep while Lance is recording his little solo vlog shit. And he says he hasn't slept in about 20 hours, so he's going to set an alarm for an hour and take a nap. And then everyone's asleep. Like, how does every single person go to sleep? I don't know. Dangerous situation 101. Someone needs to be on watch at all times and you rotate, right? Absolutely. Not that you'd be able to do anything anyway. So while they're taking their nap, it's important to point out that nobody has asked about matt for however many hours this has been he's just been missing somewhere for like six hours bro and they're just like hard to like not not blame them but like also like they're also in like the worst case scenario and they're probably just they probably haven't like really thought about it they're like i guess matt's dead i don't fucking know yeah because he's not here and he's not come back so he's probably dead somewhere screw the equipment at this point yeah yeah it's real r .i .p matt So, yeah, that was, like, at 1 .12, and then now it's 9 .41 p .m.

Oh, so they've been, like, a full day. They're all still asleep. Four hours, yeah. Yes, yes, they slept a full eight hours, and then the big light they had propped up in the lobby falls over and breaks, which startles them all awake. Lance says his cell phone says 8 p .m., while the cameras show 9 .41 p .m., so now we're starting to see the timing differences. Yeah, the timing is, like, freaking out. Yeah. Interesting. They packed food in the cooler. When they go to open it, everything is rotten and maggot infested as well.

Which means it's been way more than 24 hours. Yes. Is the food, like, not moving on this plane in the cooler and, like, everything else is? And, like, the food's, like, actually in the real world or, like, vice versa? That's a good question. So weird. It sucks. Not to be able to have a sandwich in this moment. Oh my god, you're right. Not an ideal situation. No, they have water, I guess, like, what they say, but it's still just, like, shit. Like, of course. Of course we don't have sandwiches now.

Ugh. Like, how? Listen, I would've tried to find those sandwiches in hour two. I wouldn't. I would be sweating and gone. Stress eating, for sure. I am stressed. I need a sandwich. I don't know what to do anymore. I've already ate those sandwiches. And they can eat Matt's sandwich, too. He won't need it. Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, Matt's... Fuck Matt. But someone devises a plan that they should try to get up to the roof and use the fire escape to get down to the ground. I think it was TC when he was taking his footage outside the building.

It is a very smart plan, yeah. The ladder. And so they head back upstairs, and after wandering around for a while, they end up finding a sign that... points to roof access and when they turn the corner on the stairwell all they see is a blank wall so shitty i would just probably like i would just be in a ball and just start crying yes definitely like we are not leaving this place god imagine now you're like am i here forever now like forever right like am i dead already like is this purgatory like or is this hell like what the fuck happened yeah And TC is completely unraveled at this point.

Like, he's losing his shit. Like, he's very combative towards everybody. He just wants to get the fuck out of there. He's being an asshole. Which is understandable. They find a map of a place on one of the walls, and it's all confusing. Things seem to be jumbled and out of place, and they have a compass that's just spinning around in a circle. And then they hear some screaming in the distance, and they finally, at this point... 13 14 however many hours later remember that oh yeah matt's been missing and so they take off running towards the sound of his screaming or they assume it's matt screaming and they end up in a room with a bed frame that lifts up into the air on its own it gets tossed around so they're really getting all this paranormal activity and uh lance does another one of his solo vlogs and talks about how they still haven't been able to find matt and they're not sure if he's okay Did you not hear him screaming, bro?

Like, he's probably not okay. I'm pretty sure Matt's not okay. I would argue none of you are okay. Okay, but talk about professional. He's like, I gotta get the content. The show must go on. The show must go on. I think he's just trying to, like, give himself a job in his head. Fair. No, that's actually probably, like, not a bad way to handle it. Yeah, like, I'm just gonna keep pretending I'm making a TV show. Keep it moving. Yeah, keep it moving. Keep this train chugging. I don't think this movie was, like, designed to be, like, a think piece, per se, but I feel like as time has gone on, like, maybe, like, inadvertently became one, because, like, that really encapsulates, like, people's approach to social media, these content creators these days.

No matter what, the show must go on. Yeah, the good, bad, the ugly, right? Yes. We gotta get in the YouTube algorithm, dog. There's an audience for this, whatever it is. Yeah, absolutely. Yes, yes. Which, you know, I guess just was ahead of its time. There you go. Yes. An art film. Yes. This is a high -class art film. But now they've at least learned to sleep and shift, so they take another nap. So this is now nap number two, at least. Honestly, I would probably just be napping, too. Like, I'm fucking up for it.

I'm over it. Like, I'm just gonna nap, I guess. I told you. Wake me when it happens. Wake me up when this nightmare ends. Well. They wake up from their nap and another nightmare begins because Sasha, they discover, has the word hello carved into her back. Like fully her entire back. Yes. It's not like little either. It's big. It's her entire back. From nape to butt. Ass. Yes, crack. This is great makeup because it looks real. It does. The way that they did it, they did a really good job. Yes, practical effects always trump CGI.

But after they discover this, they're like, okay, I guess let's keep moving. And so they're once again looking for Matt. And they see someone run across the hall. And Houston was like, that's Matt. It's some person wearing like a hospital gown. And they go running down the hallway chasing after this quote unquote Matt. And they end up in these like this communal bathroom kind of deal. There's a woman standing in the corner who is most definitely not Matt. And things start to get a little spooky.

I mean, they've been spooky, but now I think they're starting to really feel like all this spooky shit. And so this woman is like rocking back and forth, like whispering to herself, just seeing something's definitely awry here. And she turns around and her face... turns all demonic and it's like, ah! She screams and shit and it's like a jump scare. Whenever I think of this movie, I think of that image specifically of the woman with the big gaping mouth screaming. Yes, gaping mouth. It's pretty iconic, I'm not gonna lie.

I think it maybe is one of the first times that ever happened in a movie like this, like a found footage horror movie. At least for me. It's like the one I remember. Also, anytime someone's standing face towards a corner, it's not gonna be good just leave just go yeah like also like Blair Witch Project like all of them like they're gone whoever's in that corner that's no longer your business it's time for you it's time for you to go yeah like you have a good time in the corner I don't know what you're doing I'm gonna leave like you do use this I'm right there with you I'm right there Lance, Sasha, and TC, they run away from this gaping mouth ghost lady.

And they end up hiding out in a closet of all the places to choose. I mean, it's confined and it's small. It's confined and small, which means there's only one way in and one way out. That's true. There's no room to escape if things pop off. I'd rather be posted up in a little closet, to be honest. Really? So they're in the closet. Houston is notably missing. I know, Houston's not there. He got left behind when they chopped out. And I don't really think I would blame anybody for this. I think they all just fucking sprinted after the demonic.

I blame Houston. You gotta keep up with the crowd, bro. He's like the older one of the group, unfortunately. Not older, but like, I mean, he's probably like, what, 50s? Yeah, he's probably in his 50s, mid -50s. Yeah, I would say. He got some work done, so it was kind of hard to really pinpoint his age. He's got a good spray tan on as well. Yeah, he has a lot going on. He looks like handsome Squidward. A little bit, yeah. Lance tells them to turn off their lights in the closet, and if ghosts are really there, do you not think that they could still see you?

Do ghosts need lights to see? People or things? I don't think so. Bitch, the light is staying on. No. But that's his apparently genius tactic. So they're just scared as fuck sitting in the dark for no reason. I don't know what's going on here. But slow -ass Houston is wandering down a hallway when his flashlight dies. Oh, so scary. this poor fucking man yeah this little old little old man old fabio looking guy just like thought he was like just gonna be like play a psychic on like a tv show like probably like easy yeah easy paycheck totally oh yeah he just stumbled around a complete darkness like bumping into that wheelchair in the middle of the floor and everything.

Yeah, because this is all coming from, like, the static cams. Like, what happens to him, right? Yeah, the static cam. He's not holding a camera. So it's night vision. So he really cannot see shit. Yes, yes. I would just sit down. I wouldn't even move. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to do. Do you just sit there and wait? I don't know. It's a labyrinth, so you're not really getting anywhere. Yeah, but there's also screaming happening in the clip, right? There's screaming happening in the background.

When you get lost in the woods, they tell you to sit down. Sit the fuck down. Stay there. Moral of the story, sit the fuck down. How about that? Sit the fuck down. So as we see him stumbling around in this night vision kind of view, he goes down multiple hallways. Like, he's definitely trying to get out of there. So I got to give him his props and respect for that. Yeah. I don't know. Is he looking for the people or is he looking to get out? Like, maybe both, I guess. Maybe both. Probably get out is the 1A to the people's 1B.

Yeah, totally. Then he ends up getting snatched up in the air by an invisible force. He's hoisted into the air and he's choked. I know, that's so creepy. Yeah, so he's just dangling, feet kicking, choking, and you can't see anything. But somehow he manages to break free. And then, as he tries to run away, he gets shocked or something. And he gets flung like 20 feet. And he seems to be dead as he gets shot. It looks like a lightning strike. It's weird. The flash is weird. I don't really understand what that was.

Because it almost seems a little unnecessary. I'm not going to lie. They just throw him across the room without the flash. He flew. He flew down the hallway. The flash thing was weird. Yeah. Just my editorial insight, you know. Lance TC and Sasha, they're still in the closet and they take another nap. Fucking nap. Nap city around here. When they wake up this time. I live in nap city. I love nap city. The adrenaline is just like drained. Like you are going through it. It's sort of you're basically narcoleptic at this point.

Maybe. They are acting that way. He's just like, yeah. But this time when they wake up from their nap, they have, like, hospital patient wristbands on. And it has all their information on it and everything. Their name, date of birth, all that stuff. Wait, they're all wearing the robe? No, they're not wearing the robe. They're wearing the wristbands. Wristbands, yeah. So they're all freaked out, like, where did she come from? Especially Sasha. She was like, yo. Yeah, she's like, how do they know everything about me?

Yeah. It's creepy as fuck. it's creepy this yeah in a closet yes they did some good things with the creepiness factor here totally they leave the closet and start wandering the halls again and lance is still documenting everything and sasha finally is like fed up with this bullshit she's like yo this is not it's not tv bro like like what are you doing yeah yeah she's like stop this horse shit i think was the phrase that she used yeah um and as they're like fair yeah she definitely had a point And as they're, like, walking through this hallway, there's, like, cells or whatever on the edges of the hallway.

And Sasha has her back to one of the doors of the cells. And while she's, like, cooking Lance, like, you know, telling him to, like, stop this bullshit, an arm crashes through the little glass window in one of the doors and, like, grabs her. So that's, like, our next, like, big, big jump scare. Is this also when all the, like, where they walk to the hallway and all the doors are open? That's a little... I think it's a little bit later. Oh, it's a little bit later. Okay, sorry. Yeah, yeah. I'm jumping the gun.

No, you're good. And then... That was... That's also very creepy. Yeah. It was scary. The pop out and, like, the grab is, like... Yeah, no thank you. And they take off, start running again, and they find Matt, finally, after however many hours. And he's, like, sitting on the ground, and this time he's wearing a hospital gown. And he's in shambles. He is definitely not the same Matt. He's, like, real, like, twitchy and, like, acting like a full -blown patient in this facility. Yeah, because originally, like, Matt was, like, kind of snarky, like, just smoking, like, kind of a dickhead, but, like, funny, you know, type of guy.

And, like, then they find him, and he's, like, completely fucked mentally. and Lance queues up another one of his little solo vlogs, and he's like, we found Matt. He's all fucked up. And that shit made me laugh, bro. I was rolling. He's all fucked up. No shit, Sherlock. Thank you, Captain Obvious. It's so glib. but like honestly i didn't know how else to put it because i was like yeah that's fucked up now he's fucked up he's not he's not wrong he's definitely all fucked up like you say that everyone understands what you're saying fuck the word that has infinite meaning yeah fuck is a great word yeah yes but the way he looked into the camera and just like delivered that like he's all fucked up i was like oh my god and my captions like froze at that moment too so the movie kept going but it's just like he's all fucked up stayed at the bottom and uh so after delivering this uh this gem they take another nap so i think we're at like four naps now i think this is four naps yeah all right so they're napping At least three days, right?

So, I mean, the footage they sent in was like 76 hours, right? So that's three days, three days, four hours. That's about three days, yeah. So, I mean, four naps in three days without sleeping? Yeah, okay. It's fine. I'm wondering, are they sleeping on the hard ground? Oh, yeah. I don't like that. You must be real dead tired for that. Like, I'm a nap defender till I die, okay? I like naps as well, but when appropriate. Yeah. Yeah. It's either that or you're actually in the loony bin. Like you are, you will go insane and die without sleep.

Yeah. I would argue that this is the best thing they can do for themselves to take a constant. I mean, you need a lookout though. You need someone always awake. Sure. Sure. Well, he said they were doing shifts. Yeah, they were doing, they're doing shifts still. I think, I think now they, they stopped the shifts. Got it. Okay. Yeah. Why even bother? Cause I think by nap three, like TC was supposed to be watching and, He fell asleep, and that's when they woke up with the hospital bracelets on. Gotcha.

And Sasha was, like, yelling at him. She was like, you fucking fell asleep. Leave him alone. Yeah. My bad. My bad. He's like, I'm so sorry. Couldn't help it. Yeah. And this time, when they're napping, they're awoken by, like, evil screaming. And, like, a bunch of, like... Big ass arms are coming out of the walls trying to grab them. That was very spooky. Yes. Yep. So when that patient, the patient's room earlier with the demons in the walls, I hear we see that coming to fruition with these arms reaching out trying to grab them.

And they run away and they end up back in the bathroom with that tub where the patient killed herself. But now, now the tub is filled with bloody, bloody water. I don't like it. I don't like it. Yeah. They're like, they're like, fuck, this is getting worse. Not great, guys. Right. So they, like, the main three, they try to run away, but Matt ends up, like, standing by the tub, and he's, like, staring at it. Like, bye, bitch. Okay, you look at the tub. I'm going. Like, sorry. That's clearly not right.

So at a certain point, you gotta catch your losses. But Lance is like, hey, TC, go grab him. Which noticeably, or notably, like, Lance loves sending TC to do things. He doesn't do it himself. And TC needs to be like, fuck you, no. He needs to be like, fuck you. He's been saying fuck you for a lot of things at this point. Except for this. He agrees to this. I don't understand that. So TC goes to try to grab Matt, and he's like, guys, he's not coming. He's whatever. And then a little ghost, skeleton, demon -looking thing pops up out of the tub, grabs TC, and pulls him into the water.

and it's some freaky ass shit yes and it's not good like they're like i think i think maybe at this point lance was the one holding the camera from their from the film's point of view and so he drops the oh he drops the camera yeah and so they're trying to get tc out of the tub and uh eventually they flip the tub and when they flip the tub all the water empties out but there is no tc he yeah he's gone gone he's 86 from the chap yeah he's out he's out of here he's gone to the bathtub dimension which is really like so fucking scary so fucking scary because you're like there's there's no logic there it yeah like he's nothing makes sense he was pulled into the tub and now he's just gone like what the fuck then lance matt and sasha they end up discovering an elevator shaft as they exit this bathroom.

And they decide the best plan is to climb down to reach the service tunnels and then they can walk over to one of the connected buildings. Which is, like, also one of the other, like, original plans besides the roof. And they were like, let's not go in the tunnels because it's pitch black and our, like, flashlights could die and we'd be fucked, right? Like, that was, like, they were talking about, like, which... scenario they should do they should either like do the roof or they should do the tunnels and i think they decided on the roof initially which is i think the smarter move of course hindsight is 2020 but had they gone down into the tunnel first then they would have had more juice in their batteries in their camera yeah yeah i don't know if it would have been better i don't know it's like i if i had to make a choice between the two the tunnels or the roof i would pick the roof yeah me too i would i would also pick the roof for sure roof and fire escape not just you know being stuck on the roof now But at least you're outside.

At least there's fresh air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like Jesus at this point. But they're unable to open the elevator doors. And by they, I mean Lance, because... Matt and Sasha just really sat there on their ass. Didn't help him at all. They just watched him struggle. And then he's like, alright, so I need something to give me some leverage or whatever. So he goes off alone, looking for something to wedge the doors open with. And he ends up finding that overturned gurney from before when the wheels were spinning.

And he pulls off one of the little bars on it. So he has this pipe kind of deal. This blunt instrument. And then you see something on the floor in the corner of this room, and he gets closer. Don't investigate. Just walk away. Don't investigate. What he does, it's a fucking tongue in a pool of blood. Just a severed tongue sitting there. He's like, what the fuck? Is that a tongue? And as he's looking at this, additional drops fall down. So he's like, oh, something's above me. And he looks up, and there's some fucking demonic.

goes sitting in the corner tongueless motherfucker yes yes up in the corner just like screams with that big gaping mouth and lance is like yeah yeah yep so he runs away frightened um absolutely but he he manages to escape and he gets back to the elevator and he gets the doors open but they hear old tongueless dude uh coming back on his way to to ruin their escape party so Lance is like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to go confront this ghost. But as he does this whole bravado display, he noticed that he drops the pipe on the ground.

He drops the pipe, yeah. And picks up his camera instead. So this continues to feed into this notion that content above all is crazy. And so, yeah, the ghost like pulls up on him and Lance is like trying to fight it, fight it off. And so he's using one hand to fight the ghost off and the other hand to hold the camera. And then like Sasha goes to assist him. So they're trying to close the door. And while they're doing this, Matt picks up, I think, Sasha's camera. And so we like the point of view changes.

And so we can see Matt or see Lance and Sasha struggling with this door, trying to keep the ghost out. Yeah. Matt just kind of like looking, standing there watching them. And then he turns the camera on himself and he's like giggling to himself. Yeah. He's like fully catatonic. He's all fucked up. Yeah. Honestly, I think it'd be Matt. I would like to be Matt at this point. Yeah. Oh, totally. Yes. Just walking around. He's in his own world. My own little internal like, you know, radio happening. Just having a good time.

because that seems like what's happening for him. Everyone else is having a bad time. He's having a better time than everyone else. He's having a better time than everyone else. For sure. But those good vibes for Matt don't last very long because he then turns, takes a peek down the elevator shaft and takes a swan dive to the bottom of the shaft. No, a swan dive? Yeah. Also, I gotta argue, I still probably would rather be Matt in this. It's the only way out. I'm done. I'm done at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's been days. Like, there's a tongueless man at the swan dive. Like, I'm done. Like, goodbye. Goodbye. Goodnight. Goodbye. R .I .P. Matt. So, yeah. He didn't have a good time. Yeah. I think there was a point in your notes where you asked where they were, like, going to the bathroom or, like, where are they peeing. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just always in their pants constantly. No. Because you're right. They never take a bathroom break. No one's ever like, I have to go take a piss. There's a bunch of dudes.

I would imagine they would do that. I think they're just always peeing in their pants. Is that your question? The only thing that could make all of this worse is wet, soggy, piss pants. So I disagree. You know? I mean... Someone shits themselves, now it smells, too. Yeah, now you're stinking. They're peeing in the corner. Yeah. They're probably peeing... Yeah, I mean, best case scenario, they're peeing in the corner. Yeah. If you're, like, running from a demonic fucking ghost thing... But they haven't eaten or drank...

Like, had anything to drink, really, probably. They have water, still. Oh, wow. They have bottles of water, but their food's all rotted. But they have water. Yeah. Okay. But, like, if I'm running from a ghost, I'm probably also peeing. Okay. That's fine. That was my point, I guess. You need to pee a little. Yeah, I'm going to pee. That's a fair point. I'm probably going to pee a lot. Okay. No, same. We already talked about this on the pod. Yes. If you are running from an entity or you're in some kind of, there's no shame in pissing yourself in a situation.

In a scary, scary situation. Yeah. It's allowed. Well, you probably would all have to. Or poop yourself. You can do whatever. Yeah. Whatever you got to do. Yeah. My pants would definitely be soiled for sure. Yeah. For sure. For sure. So after Matt takes his dive down the shaft, Lance and Sasha climb down the ladder and... Dive down the shaft. I'm sorry. Should be a journey. Not riding the shaft, just diving down the shaft. Not in a fun way, let's be real. I'm sorry, Brandon. So now they're back in the tunnels and they see Matt's corpse and they're all...

sad and shit well sasha's sad uh lance is kind of like uh well let me just film this real quick he's like he records matt like looks away and then comes back to matt again like he's trying to capture this content he does check for a pulse i will give him that at least okay at least sure yeah yeah what are you gonna do about it if he's alive i think maybe you're hoping that he's just gone yeah right you're like please just be dead at this point sorry that's gonna make it dark but i'm like that's one of those i think it's already dark we gotta find something and put him out of his misery at this point yeah he dove face first into an elevator shaft yeah after being wanted to go after being gone for like 36 hours at this haunted creepy fucking asylum that is trying to kill us he's not gonna be okay yeah no yeah no and once lance and sasha are back down into these tunnels they are trying to just like walk in one direction hoping to find an exit somewhere, but they never reach any end point.

They walk for hours until they have to sit down from being too tired. And Sasha collapses and starts throwing up blood. She's also now super fucked up. Yeah, there was a moment, I think, earlier in the movie, she had alluded to not feeling well. She was like, I don't feel good. And Lance fills her forehead. She's like, oh yeah, you have a fever. She was the only one that had a physical She was touched by the... Yeah, like, touched, like, the hair and then, like, um... Like, the hello one scratched on her back.

I think she was the only one, like, being, like, physically attacked in that way. So I'm wondering if that was part of it. Yeah. Maybe you just got infected from the hello. But there's the tunnel cam down here in this night vision as Lance and Sasha sit. against the wall and take another nap. The tunnel cam captures some mysterious fog that comes billowing in around them. Oh, yeah. It's like a weird dry ice fog. Yeah. And as it exits, Sasha is now gone. No. So Lance is by himself in the tunnels and he's like, Sasha, where are you?

I don't think we ever find out what happened to Sasha. I don't think so. No, I think she's just a part of it now. Yeah. Maybe like the best death, I would say. to have. Like, if you had a choice, like, I would like to disappear in a fog. Sure. As opposed to, like, being choked and thrown across the hallway, or thrown in an elevator shaft, or, like, sucked into a bathtub of blood. Sucked into a bathtub of blood. I think the fog is the way to go, right? Yeah, yeah. You're like, just put me in the fog.

She deserved it. And now Lance, by himself, he's in the tunnels, and he sees a rat, and, uh... Yeah, he takes this trusty little pipe and he beats the rat to death and he pounces on it and eats it. Yeah, he gets feral. Yeah. As you might. He gets really feral. He ate and left no crumbs. Yeah, we have no idea how long it has been for this man. Yeah. To have eaten something. He didn't even gag while he was eating it. That's how feral he was. He just went to town. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that type of hunger.

No. I hope to never not have that type of hunger, for sure. Yeah. What scenario would y 'all have to be in, or how much money would it take for you to eat a tunnel rat? Raw? Raw. Like rat tar tar? Unfiltered tunnel rat. When I'm like put, when these questions are legitimately posed to me, it's always shocking to me and everyone else how little I will do something for. How much money? $500. How much money? How much money? Yeah. I'm doing it for $100 ,000. No, okay. No. Yeah, I might. For $100 ,000, I might.

Honestly, that's not even that much. But I'm like, given if you gnaw on this rat right now, do I have to swallow? Do I have to eat the whole thing? Is the question. Yeah, you gotta clear it. You gotta go like Lance. $500 ,000. The whole route will take me all day to do that. It will take me all day to do that. Fur and all that, too? He ate the fur. The fur is the hard part. He ate the fur? Oh, yeah. No, he just, you know, he just, like, really went for it. Shit. Okay, $750. $750 ,000. $750 ,000.

Price keeps going up. I feel like a million is too much. Do it for less than a million. Yeah, for less than a million. I would be sick for a while. Like 750k could set you up for a long time. Yeah, yeah. You could do some things with that. But would you always be the girl that ate the rat? Yeah, whatever. Fuck you. I've got investments. I've got my rat money. I'm out of here. Yeah. I'll be rat girl. I'll be totally fine with it. That could be a whole brand. A rat lady. That's your number. I think it's probably 750 as well.

Okay, I'll sell. That sounds appropriate. Thank you. Yeah. Brandon? It does. 750 sounds appropriate. I might go a little bit less, though. I might. See? I'm being honest, so, okay. Eat the whole rat. I might go as low. Are you also, like, feral starving? I think is the other part of this. No. No. Okay. Strictly for the money. Okay, we're just doing strictly for cash. Okay. Would you go as low as 300? I might go as low as like $250 to be honest. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Because given the chance, eat the rat, get $250 or not, I'm going to do it no matter what.

I'm going to do it. Yeah. I'm going to do it. Yeah. If I could name my own price $750, but if someone said eat the rat for $100 ,000, I'd probably eat the rat for $100 ,000. Oh, they're giving you the price. So it has to be six figures. Six figures. Six figures. I think six figures is acceptable. Yeah, because I'm going to feel like... If you're not, like, fairly starving, I guess it doesn't really make any sense then. Because you're like, I'm going to eat the rat. I would love to eat the rat. I'm feral.

I would love to eat this rat. I'll pay you to eat this rat. I will, in fact, pay you to eat the rat. Alright, so he's eating the rat. So all of our dignity is on the line. Dignity is gone. But seeing him, like, take this pipe and beat this rat to death, like, reminded me of something that happened to me, though. So, like, it's, like, a couple years ago. Like, I was in the garage, right? I swear to God, if I talk about eating a rat, I'm going to be so... I didn't eat the rat. I didn't eat the rat.

Okay. No, no, I didn't eat the rat. But I opened my garage, right? I'm taking the trash out. And I just hear, like, this squeaking sound. I'm like, what the fuck is that? And, like, I thought, like, the garage was, like, rocking on its, like, hinges or joints or whatever. Oh, like the door? Yeah. And so, like, I'm like, where's the squeak? Like, I look up and then I see a mouse that's, like, been bunched up in this coil. And it's, like, it's still alive. And I'm like, holy shit. Like, it's, like, trapped in there and it's squeaking.

That's what I'm hearing. And so, I'm like, I can't do anything for you, buddy. Like, you're fucking cut. You're toast. So, yeah. But in the garage, like, I had, like, an old, like, shower rod. And so, like, I grabbed that shower rod and, like, put the mouse out of its misery. It is familiar to a thing that happened to you. Yeah, yeah. Okay. It was crazy. It was crazy. Granny, you just ruined my goddamn day. You know that? I hate any time. I don't like taking animals out. It's not fun. It's not fun.

like bugs in the house i'll take them outside like yeah all that stuff like if i have an opportunity to not kill this animal yeah i will take that opportunity harder yeah yes oh there's no way there's no way i'm gonna yeah it's wrapped up in there it was it was done so oh yeah it was tough yeah you did the best you could like it just yeah yeah thanks for that definitely remind me of that seeing this in this i think i didn't have to eat it Yeah, that would have been horrible. That would have been not great.

Yeah. It's worse than the room full of Pez. That's the thing your wife does not want to know about, right? Yeah. I mean, I told her. We were married at this point, so she knew. I had to tell her. I was like... She's like, what's wrong? I was like, you have no idea what I just did. Holy shit. Like mouse PTSD or like innocent life. Facts, yes. Sorry. Oh, no. Oh, man. Yeah, it was tough. Not great. Yeah, not great. You did all right. But okay, after getting his strength back from eating this tunnel rat, Lance continues walking.

And finally, he reaches a door at the end of this tunnel that leads him into what appears to be like a workspace, laboratory, clinic kind of setup. And there's like... pictures around of like different kinds of experiments and like anatomical models and drawings and shit so this is where our doctor friedkin would uh his his base of operations right the guy that did the lobotomies right the neurologist yeah and so lance is like walking around still filming everything Uh, and he finds, like, an altar with, like, some occult shit on it.

There's, like, some book on there. It looks like it's, like, written in, like, Latin or whatever. All these demonic books are always Latin, right? It looks like, um, like, almost like runes. Like, uh... Oh, runes. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it looks like to me. It's very witchy. Yeah. How do you describe a rune? Yeah. It's some witchy shit. Yeah. Like Agatha Long. But as he finds this altar, he's like, oh, shit. And he, like, knocks something on the ground, I think, and that makes him turn around. And then when he turns around, he sees, like, the doctor ghost doctor and his assistants like performing some surgery or operation on someone and they see him and he's like oh yeah they acknowledge him they're like yes you don't like doing yeah what are you doing a guy yeah and then he like pans the camera away and then he pans back to him they're like right in his face and then they grab him up and he's like no i'm not crazy i'm not crazy and all this screaming yeah he's screaming yep and then the final shot of grave encounters is of lance his final little solo vlog.

He's talking to the camera saying that the doctor said he can go home because he's all better now. He's all better now. As he's saying this, it's like a streak of blood running through the corner of his eye because he got lobotomized. He's livid. He's laughing. He's lobotomized. Yes, he is. Yep. And that's how the film ends. And he's happy. He says he's better. Yeah, he's better. Now he can go home. Damn. yeah good job so good yeah yeah it and i think like the lobotomy at the end though like again like to bring it back to the social media thing and like this brain rot or whatever it's like yeah you know it all like social media like alters people's brain chemistry like it is absolutely yeah lobotomy in and of itself and so i don't know if this was intended when they made this in 2011 but it's definitely we're seeing where we're getting that right now I like the analysis and the 2026 lens of that, I think, truly.

Because, I mean, you're not wrong. I think I feel like I bring around myself every day when I'm just doomscrolling. Doomscrolling, yeah. I'm not doomscrolling, but I am scrolling. I'm having a good time. I have curated this algorithm. My algorithm is curated and lovely. Thank you very much. Mine's a lot of politics. That's definitely doomy. That's what I mean. It's hard to get out of that loop. You're like, no, I don't want to see it, but I try to be informed, but also I really hate it here. Thank you.

Good job. And it's a three out of five. Three out of five. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think that's fair. I think that's fair too. Yeah. I think you need to give more credit. Three out of five. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. I just, I like, I gave it a four out of five because I really was just like, this is like the most fucked up adventure. Yeah. I like that it doesn't end well either. I think really the, I think also the fact that. there is no way for them to leave, I think really adds to the spooky factor of the movie itself.

Because there's a lot of movies where you just watch and you're like, why didn't you just fucking leave at this point? That's really very terrifying. Yeah, I think that really just adds to the horror of the entire film itself. So I think they did a really good job with that aspect. Especially when they break down those doors and it's just another hall. They're doubly fucked at that point. And I think that keeps tying into like the social media kind of aspect of things. Like you willingly sign up for these platforms and then you get hooked and you can't leave and you try to find an exit and it's another hallway.

It's another social media platform that you end up running into. Yeah, that's me just trying to like set my alarm and put my phone down for the night. And I'm like, just five more minutes. Right. Just a few more minutes. Just watch this one more. I'll wait until. 12 .30? Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I guess get off your phones, guys. It's the moral of the story. Get off your phones. Go touch grass. Go touch some goddamn grass. Unless you're super allergic and have allergies like me, maybe just stay inside for a little bit longer.

Just until the summertime. Just wait until everything stops pollinating because it's trying to kill you. You know, unfortunately. It's okay. I'll live. So that's our conclusion of our part two of our Grimly Riffick collaboration. Grimly Riffick is really good. So sweet. Well, thank you for enduring our bullshit during this episode. Thank you for enduring my bullshit during this episode. You're welcome. You had less bullshit than we did, but, like, okay. Yes, you're welcome. It was a pleasure. It was an absolute pleasure.

Yeah, no, this was really fun. I really, I mean, yeah, maybe we'll, I think we talked about maybe doing the sequel at some point. Yeah. Yeah, see if people want us to do the sequel or if everyone hates it. They're like, who are these bitches? Why are they on your podcast? I understand it. We do understand. We get it. We're not for everybody. It's okay. But that's fine. But yeah, thanks for having us, Brandon. For sure. Pull up again. We will. Absolutely. Always. Do y 'all want to say the parting?

Keep it spooky? Catchphrase, always keep it spooky. Always keep it spooky. Is there not a lead up? But in the meantime, remember. Always keep it spooky. Always keep it spooky.

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