Tunnel Rat Tartare (Grave Encounters) feat. Grimly

I need to pee. Sorry, you are dealing with two

women who have to pee frequently. That's fine.

No worries. I'll take this opportunity to have

more of my drink. Yeah, totally. What are you

drinking? We're just drinking rosé right now.

Welcome back to the place where it is perpetually

spooky season. Today we have a special episode.

It's not a Terrorific episode. It is a joint episode.

I'm joined by Missy and Meg, hosts of the podcast

Grimly. Hello. Hello. Thanks for having us. I

am good. So good. Can't wait for this. I feel

like we haven't been talking for the last two

hours, but we are really good. Yes. Yeah. We

are on a marathon session right now. Yeah. It's

so good to see you. I feel like I haven't seen

you in so long. I know. That 10 minute break.

That 10 minute break was just too long. Yeah.

Too long for us. Too long. Yes. Yes. Grimly.

So this is my first time. having any other voice

on the Terrific feed. Really? Oh my god, I'm

honored. I'm very honored. I already said this.

In a room by myself, talking to myself out loud

for hours on end. So now I can actually talk

to other people and not feel like I'm crazy.

Descending into madness. Yeah. Yeah, totally.

In one of the episodes. Right? What's the name

of the asylum in Grape Encounters? Uh, ooh. Not

Overbrook. Collinsworth. Collinsworth, yes. Something.

Well, I'm Meg. Calling something. I know it can

be hard to tell us apart by voice. You think

so? Uh -huh. Okay. It can be. Yeah. All right.

Not unless you know it. See, I'm Meg. Yeah. Yeah,

we're two idiots, so we apologize if we're going

to bring down the... Just your audience. No,

this is what we're here for, you know, to give

them a little bit something different. A little

spice. Yeah. Break up the monotony of always

having to listen to me only. Yeah, have a little

spice of idiocracy. brought into it. I'm ready.

I'm very excited. Looking forward to it. When

I do my episodes, since it's just me, it's a

lot more rigid, I would say. I take a lot of

retakes and re -recordings trying to get things

just right. It's really hard to do retakes in

front of people. It is. That's totally fine.

Go with the flow when you've got other people.

I think that would be fun. You heard me take

at least 10 retakes when I did my episode. Yes,

yes. You did good. No judgment over here is my

point. You did really good. Thank you. I hope

to do even a fraction as well as you did, so

we shall see. No promises, though. I think this

will be a very fun episode. Me too. I am really

excited. So Grimly and Terrorific were both part

of the Creators Collective. So we are our, what's

the word I'm looking for? Comrades, perhaps?

Yes. Brothers in arms. Sisters in Arms. Why don't

you tell the folks where you can be found? Yeah,

so we are in Wondery. We are part of the Black

Cat FM network. And then we are also available

on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, YouTube.

We just have YouTube Music and we're on YouTube.

It's just like an audio podcast. We don't do

video because I don't know how people do both.

It just seems like so much work. To edit both?

To edit both. Yeah, totally. Yes, and then we

were also available on Wondery. And we release

every Monday. Yep, a weekly pod. We are a weekly

pod. Where Missy does all the work. And I just

show up and say, don't shit. Yeah, mix here for

the vibes. Someone asked me what the pod's about

recently. And I described it as, if you like

unsolved mysteries, dick jokes and have um a

deep hatred for donald trump and the patriarchy

you'll probably really like us that is a good

synopsis yes that's not bad yeah thank you thank

you i thought so um so yeah we yeah every week

we post a different story different topic we

do a lot of like missing person cases we do a

lot of haunted locations which is kind of the

inspiration for this collab is um the haunted

location we talked about in the last or in our

episode And, yeah, I mean, we've been doing it

for, what, two years? Two years. For two years,

yeah. We just hit episode 100. We're doing a

Heaven's Gate series. Congrats. Thank you. Thank

you. Yeah, and that's kind of the gist, I would

say. Yeah. All right, so this is part two of

our collab. So part one, if you haven't listened

to that, you should. But by we, I mean Missy

and Meg went through. The inspiration for the

film we'll be covering today. Yes. 2011's Grave

Encounters. Hell yeah. Sorry, chomping at the

bit to talk about it. This is one of my favorite

scary movies. It's good. It's good. I think it's

maybe a little dated now, I will say. It feels

like a, I don't know. I think because so many

other movies have tried to do what this movie

did, it now seems like, oh, well, I've seen this

before. But when it came out, I feel like it

was really a very scary movie. Like, truly. Like,

it freaked me out. Yeah. I think that's probably

the best gauge you can have. I know you have

a whole scoring system, but I will... The threshold

for good horror is to be freaked out. Yeah, totally.

Either that or it doesn't. Yeah, yeah. It's very

subjective, too. So, one to five, what would

you rate it? Ooh, I would probably give it, I'd

probably give it a four. Four, okay. Four out

of five. Four out of five. Wow. Yeah. Maybe just

because of nostalgia. Well, you said it's one

of your favorites. It is one of my favorites.

I'm just saying. It isn't like the scariest movie,

I will say, but I do think just the scenario

that those people are in is just inherently very,

very scary. Accurate. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.

Meg, did you watch it too? I did watch it. I

was on the airplane, so. Yeah, she was traveling

for work, and so she was coming home. Yeah, I

saw, like, 90 % of it. God damn it. 90 % of it.

I know, that's so funny. You surprised me. All

right, so of that 90%, how would you rate it,

one to five? It's a two for me. A two? Okay.

That's going to be a two, dog. I don't know.

I have to confess, I don't know, like, all the

niche, like, rate, like, how you rate movies.

So, like, for me, if someone's like, is it a

two out of five? What is it out of five? It's

a two out of five for me. Interesting. It's a

two out of five. Sorry. Okay. I mean, I didn't

make it, so you don't have to apologize to me.

I just like the movie. That's perfectly fine.

If you, like, was creative and, like, directed

it and was, like, written the story and you gave

it a two out of five, sure, that'd be pretty

pissed. Okay. Yeah. Sorry to the writers out

there who wrote this movie. I gave it a three,

so we're all... Pretty much in the same. Yeah.

On the average, I guess. Yeah. You, you trusted.

So yeah. You know? Yeah. Totally. I honestly

feel like a three from you is pretty good. Yeah.

I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. What there is, what

does your fives out of fives? Do you have like

a list out there? Um, so I recently got onto

Letterboxd. So since I think I, I think I just

got on there maybe like September, October timeframe,

probably October. In October, I'll watch, like,

I try to do 31 horror movies in the month of

October. Right, I remember that. You were toasted

after that. That's a lot of work. Bro, it's a

lot. It's a lot. I don't know why I put myself

through this. You're like, never again. Yeah,

yeah. Maybe this year I'll do, like, 20 or something

or 15. We'll cut it in half. You're going to

run out of movies. Yeah, like 13 days of Halloween.

That's Christmas. That's definitely more manageable.

That's not a bad idea. I think that's Christmas,

actually. You're right. Oops. Whatever. Yeah,

five stars, though. I think the only one I've

given five stars to has been Bring Her Back.

I really liked Bring Her Back. Yeah. You haven't

seen it yet. I did see it. Oh, did you see it?

Not a fan. No, I... Okay, I do think it's scary.

It just... There's something about those two

people who write those movies, because they also

did talk to me, right? Same characters? Yes.

Yeah, the Philippou brothers. I don't like how

they write characters. I think I've talked about

this in our last episode. I'm like, I don't like

having someone to root, not having someone to

root for. Okay. And I feel like all of the characters

they write are very insufferable. And I'm like,

I don't care if you talk. You're so fucking annoying.

She's such a Virgo, I swear. You're fucking all

annoying me so much. I don't even care anymore.

Like, the sister pissed me off in that, how she

just, like, instantly trusted this, like, woman

instead of her brother, who was, like, doing

his best to protect her. I was like, girl, what

are you doing? And, like, shoved him in that

room. Yeah, she was a monster. He was a monster.

And, like, it, yeah, maybe it pissed me off,

and maybe that was just my reaction to it. I

was just pissed. I'm like, this, like, everyone

sucks. Like, and so I think it's hard for me.

The knife scene, though, is the worst. That I

I was I watched it in the theaters. And yeah,

you I just had never been in a situation where

every single person around us was like, so we're

all uncomfortable. We're looking at each other

like, what the fuck is happening right now? Like

the sounds. It is the sound right now. Yeah.

Yeah. It was very good. Like that. Like, you

just don't see stuff like that. No, no. And that

is like probably a good. like kind of way to

like i mean like the fact that we all remember

the sound yeah does speak to like how good that

movie is and so i think i'm just maybe i'm an

outlier i will say because i do think a lot of

people what would you have rated it out of five

i still probably would have rated it high because

i can see the potential and i can see why people

liked it yeah i'd probably give it like a three

and a half or four um but i just don't think

that movie is for me okay i think it just annoyed

the shit out of me i think that's fair I also

really didn't like the newest Leonardo DiCaprio

movie for the same reason. Like, all the characters

were just so fucking annoying to me. The one

that just won the Oscar. I tried to watch it.

One battle after another. Yes, thank you. Yeah,

I was just like, why is everyone an idiot? Like,

what is happening? Judgmental. I am very judgmental.

What about when they're intended to be idiots,

though? Do you take that into account? Um...

I think really the only time for me... I think

it's funny. I think when people are intended

to be idiots, I think it's in the comedy. I have

to be able to laugh at them. Maybe just because

we deal with too many idiots in the real world

now, and I'm like, I can't watch this on TV as

well. This is too real. This is too real. This

is too real life. I don't want to watch idiots

on TV. Maybe. Maybe. If something's a satire,

does that make it automatically a comedy by default?

Because is a comedy funny? Like, how do we decide?

For me, it's like, then what is a comedy? Can

you do satire, but it's not funny? I think it

has to be funny. One battle after another would

fall into that category. Would you argue that?

Maybe. A dramatic satire. Is that contradictory?

I don't know. No. I don't know. I don't think

so. It's unique. Yeah. I think this is a conversation

for people who are way smarter than us. Or just,

like, film nerds. Yeah, we're not film nerds.

Neither am I. Neither am I. Yeah. We're getting

philosophical about the movies, and I love it.

Yes, yes. But we are not here for one battle

after another. No, we are not. Although Leonardo

DiCaprio is my favorite actor, side note, sidebar.

But yes, we're going to talk about Grave Encounters.

Yes. All right, so let's dive into it. Let's

do it. I love it. Yeah. All right. So as I said

before, it's from 2011. It was written and directed

by the Vicious Brothers, which if you're going

to be a horror movie directing tandem, you could

come up with worse names than the Vicious Brothers.

Vicious Brothers is perfect. That's nice. That's

nice. I looked up their other filmography, but

Grave Encounters was like their big thing. Oh,

interesting. And the sequel. Oh, okay. They did

a sequel to it. But the plot focuses, or it starts

off, the movie starts off with a production company.

They are producing reality TV shows, and their

main guy gets a tape in the mail of a pilot episode

of a new reality series called Grave Encounters.

And this show is produced by a man named Lance

Preston. And the premise is that Lance and his

team of paranormal investigators would spend

the night... I don't know why. In haunted locations

and capture everything on camera, you could not

pay me to spend the night in a haunted location.

I don't care what the amount is. Really? Write

me a blank check. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing

it. Listen, obviously you would do it. I would

do it. I would only do it if it was like a comfortable

hotel bed and you paid me. Like, so I would do

it. But it needs to be a place I'd want to sleep.

It can be haunted, but can it also be cozy? I

don't think you're sleeping when you're doing

these, though. Yeah, how cozy is it going to

be when ghosts are, like, tickling your feet

and shit? Well, you're also there to capture

evidence. That's the whole point. You're there

to capture evidence. You're working. I am also

very much a night owl, and so I love to stay

up late, and I love to be up at night. So I feel

like this has also just worked better for me

to be up all night watching or hunting ghosts.

Fair. I also said in our previous episode that

I would like to be a ghost hunter if I could.

I guess I could make that happen. Yeah, absolutely.

You can do anything you want to. Is that cheesy,

though? Yes, it is. Is it corny? Okay. If you

believe, you can achieve. Other team members

that assist Lance include Sasha, who is their

resident occult specialist, Matt, who is their

equipment tech, and TC, their cameraman. Also

notably... The only black guy present, so...

Oh, no! We probably know how things are gonna

go for him, but I won't spoil it for you. I gotta

say, off the bat, TC pissed me off the most in

this fucking movie. Because he was, like, the

worst type of scared. Okay, what does that mean?

Look into it. I'm sorry. I feel like he was,

like, the most realistic scared, though. He was

realistic. It may have been the worst. Yeah,

well, I'll get to it later. Sorry, I'm gonna

cut you off. No, you're good. So Lance and the

gang, they get to episode six, which serves as

the framework for the majority of the film. So

they journey to a haunted asylum and things go

awry, unsurprisingly. So Lance and his team apparently

captured like 76 hours of footage that the production

company then edited together, but did not doctor,

according to them. Right, and they were clear

about that. And this is the raw footage. This

is the tape they received. In the minutes. Anonymously,

right? Yes, this is their raw footage. And then

edited for time. Yes, is what he said. He's like,

all of this is real, it's edited for time, that's

it. Which, great premise. Great premise. So that

establishes its authenticity for the fear that

lies ahead. Right. So Lance and his team, they

went to the Collingwood Psychiatric Hospital

in Maryland. And it was open from 1895 to 1960.

And during that time, it housed more than 80

,000 mentally ill patients. 80 ,000 is a crazy

fucking number. Sorry, do you swear on this podcast?

Not at one time. Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay. Definitely

E for explicit. Sorry, I'm like, oh, God. Let

me just make sure before I keep dropping that

fuck. Fuck shit. Motherfucker. Asshole. Yeah,

whatever you want to throw out there. Your ghost

noise is penis, remember? Penis! This is my cursing

outlet, because my wife doesn't like cursing,

and I have kids, obviously. So I can't say anything

in front of them, or let me rephrase, I don't

say anything in front of them. Yeah, you gotta

do like The Good Place where you say Mother Forker.

Mother Forker. Yes, that was a great show, by

the way. That was a great show. Yes. So, yeah,

during that 65 -year span, yeah, 80 ,000 people

came through the doors. Closed in 1963, and then

after that, people started reporting seeing ghosts

and objects moving on their own and sometimes,

quote -unquote, lunatic laughter. Very specific.

Very descriptive. Laughter is a hard one, for

sure. Yes, especially if it's a lunatic variety.

I don't even... I want to imagine what that sounds

like. I'm so sorry. Coleman. Go lay down. Sorry,

I brought a dog to the party. I had to close

my doors to keep the cats out, otherwise they'd

be here too. Marshmallow is our black cat. He's

a very lap -heavy cat. I think he was a dog in

his past life. He loves to curl up. He's a very,

he's a charcoal. You won the lottery. Yes. I

don't always like that. No, no. Her cats are

fucking demons. Excuse me. Demon's fun. Not to

me. Most of the time. Most of the time. I was

waiting for you to clarify. Finish that sentence.

Yeah. So Lance and the team, they plan to lock

themselves inside for eight hours, hoping to

capture footage of what they call the ghost of

Collingwood Psychiatric Hospital. But while they're

filming some of their lead up footage, they interview

a dude named Morgan Turner. And he's like a local

town historian and provides information about

the hospital's past. So it was built in 1893

to deal with overcrowding. But it became a way

for people to offload family members that they

found embarrassing rather than a means to receive

true care. So this is all due to a lack of understanding

of mental illness at that time, which one can

argue we still don't really understand today.

Like when we talked about Overbrook, they called

it the bin for a reason, unfortunately. Collinswood

had horrid living conditions and there were people

sleeping on the floor without blankets and sometimes

they even didn't have clothes. Just to give a

little bit of like a historical lens, I think

the like the no clothes and stuff, I think specifically

was Pennhurst State School and Asylum, which

we talked about. long time ago in one of our

episodes i think it was like episode seven yeah

um yeah and that one had some really really like

more horrific conditions than like the place

we just talked about the overbrook and that's

why i think that this is heavily based on the

ghost adventures episodes of those three locations

uh penhurst waverly and the overbrook so yeah

just my my little um my two cents no that's good

to know you're filling in the blanks that i would

not have filled in myself so I am the Ghost Adventures

expert, I guess, in this episode. Resident. Which

is really sad for me. So if the Pennhurst was

episode seven, what episode are y 'all on right

now? We just released 100. Yeah, we're in the

middle of episode 100. 100 episodes. Yeah. That's

crazy. So Pennhurst was 93 episodes ago. It's

crazy. So y 'all are listening to some vets in

the podcasting game because Terrific, we're 28

episodes in, so 100. Respect. Yeah, yeah. I want

to be like you when I grow up. Thanks. I try

so hard, I'm not going to lie. That's okay. It's

good. You know what? There's nothing wrong with

that. Yeah, putting in the effort, you know?

Yeah, for sure. Okay, so Arthur Friedkin was

the lead doctor at the Collingwood Hospital.

And he is a very infamous person, apparently.

So he was a neurologist who studied at Harvard.

And he was the head physician at Collingwood

from 1937 to 1948. And he became notorious for

his work in experimental brain surgery. Ooh,

we don't like that. Don't like that. Yeah. Yeah,

man's was all about lobotomies, and under his

supervision, slash his direct performance of

these lobotomies, 140 of them were performed.

Roughly. You know, there were some days where

I just could go for a lobotomy. You could take

one to go for a lobotomy. If it was reversible.

it was just like taking a drug like just taking

the drug you're like you know what i need today

some listen it's barbaric and terrible but i

think some some of them probably by dumb luck

like actually like functional yeah or helpful

in some way but like yeah Yeah, no, most were

not. Were really horrific. We talked about Rosemary

Kennedy in one of our episodes and how she was

lobotomized because she was - True story, yes.

Acted out a little bit as a Kennedy woman and

her father had her lobotomized and it was - She

was never the same. Never the same. She was basically

handicapped after that. Yeah, yeah. It really,

really fucked her up. It's really, really sad.

It's a bad thing. Yeah. History of lobotomy is

real, real, real dark. Yeah, I don't want to

be a part of the medical trials of anything.

No, no. I want to know. I want to know what's

working. I could live, laugh, and lobotomy sometimes.

Live, laugh, lobotomy. We may have an episode

title right there. I need to be a sign. On August

15th, 1948, six patients broke out of their rooms

and they stabbed Friedkin to death in his office.

But this didn't make headlines because a certain

baseball player by the name of Babe Ruth died

the very next day. Wow. Okay. Babe Ruth stole

all the shine from Friedkin getting fucked over

there. I would argue he maybe deserved it. You

know. It sounds like it. Yeah, maybe those lobotomies

came. Those are like the sane patients. They

were like, I'm clapping back, bitch. We're not

going to get out of this building, but we can

get out of this room. Yeah, that's right. We

can get out of our rooms. Heroes, I would say.

Not all heroes wear capes sometimes. They just

have lobotomies instead. Stray jackets. Yes.

Not in this case. Hospital gown. Hospital gowns

is probably a little more PC. Open hospital gowns

to ass always out. You definitely cannot stab

somebody in the straight. You could headbutt.

A proper headbutt, you know? Right, totally.

But then, okay, so the next interviewee that

Lance and his team speak to is the groundskeeper

named Kenny Sandoval. So he pulls up to let them

in the hospital and to give them a tour of the

place. And there's a very ominous... writing

on the front door says death awaits printed in

or spray painted or written in like bright green

letters and uh that's not a sign to get the fuck

out of there i don't know what it is it is for

me yeah that's a promise yeah that is our but

our ghost hunting gang is not to be deterred

you know they see this and say fuck death uh

we're okay not me yeah they also all y 'all can

die not us we're good Yeah, they make fun of

it. They're like, this is corny and cheesy. Oh,

yeah. You know, like, which is so funny to me.

They're like, oh, this is dumb. They're like,

yeah, you know, like, we can just slap a weird

filter and, like, you know, get some, like, we'll

produce it up and make it look spooky. Like,

even though it is cheesy and corny and dumb.

And they're like, well, I think they're about

to fuck around and find out. Yeah, you're gonna

F .A .F .O. for sure. Yes, they will. So they

ask Kenny if he believes in ghosts, and he tells

them that over his eight years as a caretaker,

he's seen some weird shit, especially at night.

The building is old, so it's pipes and all that

stuff aside, he still heard some noises and had

feelings that he's not alone in there. Yeah.

And while he's giving them the tour, they go

upside to the next floor. It's like a four or

five level building. It's a big building. Yeah.

He shows him this big -ass window up there, and

he says that he'll lock it up at night, and then

he'll come back in the morning to see it wide

open, as if something or someone is trying to

get out. I think that window plays more into

it than we think, honestly. I will... Sorry,

I have a theory about the window, I will say.

And I will... I'll add more to it later. I'm

sorry. Can you get the... He will not stop licking

my hand. And then he starts to whine every time

I pull my hand away. I'm like, we cannot spend

an hour of you constantly licking. I love you,

but you're acting so weird today. So clingy.

He's acting a fool. I'm sorry. Kenny also takes

the gang into a former patient's room and there's

a bunch of incoherent writing all over the walls.

I made it a couple words like demons and death.

Yeah, okay. I was going to ask. Yeah, so dark

stuff. Dark stuff. Sage is spooky. Yeah. Yeah,

there's a few lines about demons being in the

walls themselves as well, which is foreshadowing.

Yeah, was it there before? Like, I don't know.

Just so many questions. So many questions about

that. So many questions. Like, was the demon

already there when it was built? You know? Or,

I mean, I guess maybe not. I don't know, Maryland,

probably some ancient... Yeah, maybe some weird

shit was on the grounds that they built it on,

I don't know, you know? Yeah. The tour gets even

better, because Demons in the Walls is not good

enough, apparently, so Kenny takes them into

a bathroom where a young patient climbed into

a bathtub and killed herself in said bathtub.

That one's messed up. Yeah, that one is messed

up. And then people have since claimed to have

heard sounds of splashing water coming from that

room when they go to visit. Creepy. So... Yeah,

you don't want to be in an empty room and hear...

That's such a distinct sound. Yeah. Like... Yeah,

that's creepy. Especially, like, someone splashing

water on a bathtub. Yes. That's kind of what

it sounded like. They were kind of, like, um...

alluding to. It was, like, people, like, someone,

like, slashing around. Yeah, like, they're, like,

moving, like, kind of, like, water splashing

and, like, when you move around the bathtub.

Yeah. Which kind of let it sound like they were

alluding to, which is creepy as fuck. I don't

want to hear that. Mm -mm. When no one's around?

Yeah. And there's no water in the bathtub? Spooky.

No water in the bathtub. No. It could be a raccoon,

you know? If there was water in the bathtub,

it just could have been a raccoon trapped. Sure.

But if it's an empty bathtub in an empty bathroom,

and... There should be no water sound. No. No.

But a side note, if you or anyone you know is

experiencing or struggling with thoughts of suicide

or self -harm, please call or text 988 to talk

to someone and get help. Yes, please do. You're

not alone. No. Yeah. And things can get better.

All right. Moving forward. So while they're getting

this tour, Lance is basically just creaming his

pants this entire time. So he's very excited

to hear about all this potential for paranormal

activity, which if that were me. I would not

be doing the same. No, you are not excited. No.

You're not in the sewer at all. Like, you're

just not here. As soon as I saw Death of Waits,

I definitely would have gone back to the car.

I'll wait there, you know. I'll have my walkie

-talkie, and y 'all can tell me what y 'all see.

But, yeah, I'm not going in there. I mean, I

wouldn't even travel there to begin with, to

be honest. Not even as, like, a historical tour?

No. No. Probably not. From the outside, Yeah,

sure, I guess. But inside tour? Nah. We'll get

on that. No? Not during the daytime? In the daylight?

On, like, a nice sunny day? Just, like, here?

It's spooky. It's still spooky. Okay. Okay. Probably

not. I did, like, a voodoo tour in New Orleans

one time. Yeah! And that was cool. Yeah. But

that seemed more cultural, and this seems more

scary shit. I don't do scary shit. Right, like,

we're just trying to, like, focus on one. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. sure like fictional scary shit

yeah all day every day but the potential real

scary shit no thank you ever on any day totally

okay but lance yeah he's uh yeah he's bricked

up right now hearing about all this stuff so

bricked up love that and then kenny takes them

down into the surface tunnels after that and

these tunnels run between the buildings and keep

them all connected on this you know massive compound

similar to the uh the overbrook yeah that was

pretty common in like most of the those um old

asylums like that is they had the all of them

had like an underground tunnel system at least

like Waverly did, Pennhurst did, Overbrook did.

I think it was just kind of a classic way to

just move stuff around. And maybe because of

those areas that got really, really intense weather

sometimes, to be able to move throughout buildings

without having to go outside is also part of

it as well. But yeah, the tunnel systems and

those things are crazy. And it happens in all

of them, which is creepy as fuck. So dark. Hella

creepy. Kenny tells the mother down in the tunnels

how one day he was walking down there and the

air suddenly got really cold and still. And he

felt like he was being watched. No, thank you.

No, thank you. Yeah, the deep, dark tunnels and

feeling like you're being watched. Just gross.

Not into it. Not into it. I'm not completely

stupid, you guys. I guess that's my point. There's

a line there. There is a line. Take a weapon.

Oh, for sure. But what are you going to do against

the ghost? I'm saying the weapon won't do anything

for you. A super soaker filled with holy water.

Okay. So you're going to get the vampires. Maybe

the ghost. Do they use holy water in the... Yeah,

does holy water work on ghosts? What if the ghost

is like a religious person? It's still a ghost.

You can do nothing about a ghost attack, and

that's all I'm saying. You are at their mercy.

If you bring a weapon, they're probably going

to kill you with that weapon. Probably. I'd say

you're better. You can't kill me with a super,

super filled with holy water. I'm stripping everything

off. I'm going in their butt naked. They got

nothing to use against me. That's crazier than

what I said. That's my tactic, okay? You have

yours. I'm, all right. I respect it. Mine's commando.

That's an interesting method of fighting ghosts.

We shall see who gets, yeah, we'll see who gets

out. If I'm just as crazy as they were, then

we're all just one big family. Like, we're all

just in it. All right. Okay. They're like, she's

one of us inside. One of us, okay, yeah. She's

not, she's in crossover yet, but we see it. We

see it. I would take a weapon. I would take a

weapon. Because if the ghost has to materialize

to harm you, right? Totally. At that moment,

then you can strike back, right? Fine. Yeah.

Okay. Just like a pipe filled with sand, you

know? Something. Something. Okay. Yeah. Not a

gun. Don't bring a gun. Bring something like

a blunt instrument. A blunt. Yes. Yes. I would

bring a blunt, actually. Meg is naked, walking

in the halls. Naked with a blunt. With a blunt.

First we had Naked and Afraid, now we have Naked

and Blunted. Alright, that's it. Probably wearing

sunglasses. I'm having a good time. It's a party

now, honestly. Oh god, I'm so sorry, Brandon.

No, no, this is what we're here for. Yeah. Next

interview is a guy named Gary. They're going

through a lot of interviews here before they

do their lock -in situation. And I will say,

Ghost Adventures, what this movie is based off

of, TV show, they do also do a good amount of

interviews initially, too. It's the fill time

for nothing else. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. The amount

of action in the movie is not that much. I don't

know. A third of it? Two thirds? Yeah. Anyways,

keep going. So they're speaking to Gary Crawford

of Crawford Contracting. So the state hired him

for renovations back in 1993. And he and his

guys were on site for about two weeks and experienced

some spooky shit. So some guys heard weird noises

and tools started disappearing overnight. If

I'm a ghost, why am I stealing tools? Why is

that the way you want to troll somebody to steal

their tools? I mean, it's just a way to troll

somebody. I don't think it really has a right

reason. I just want to mess with you. Kind of

naughty. Play with their hair, breathe on them

or something. Wouldn't that be more fear -inducing

than just stealing their tools? Because then

you just think, oh, I'm just an idiot and I forgot

my hammer. Maybe, you know. Maybe they need the

tools, though. I don't know. Maybe there's some

construction in the ghost realm. Some ghost construction.

Yeah. They're trying to spruce the place. Probably

not very stable, though. No. They're trying to

build a sauna. That's what they're trying to

do. They deserve a sauna. They deserve a sauna.

Yeah. Okay, so yeah, the tools started disappearing

overnight, and then one guy was on a ladder doing

some work. Then he had an accident where he swore

he felt someone push him off the ladder. And

this dude is probably the smartest guy in the

film because he quits immediately after that.

No questions asked. If I felt an invisible force

push me off of a ladder, he's seen enough. Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely. I can get another job. Totally.

jizz pants lance that's what i'm calling from

now on because he's still still creaming himself

over all this activity he's really excited he's

real jizz pants lance yeah he uh he points out

that this sounds like an intelligent haunting

versus a residual one so residual haunting yeah

missy explained on our part one of this episode

or this uh this this series So residual hauntings

are more like echoes from the past looping over

and over again. Whereas intelligent hauntings

involve a spirit that intentionally interacts

with people and the environment. Yeah. They're

like the bad kind. Yeah. They know you're there.

Yeah. And it's usually not good. I don't like

that. Yeah. That sounds very menacing. Yeah.

Totally. And then, oh my God, there's so many

interviews. So then the next one. Okay, I didn't

realize there was this many. This is why I said

it needed to be a two -parter. I was like, there's

no fucking way we're doing this all in one episode.

Yeah, that would have been three hours long.

I know, we've just been still talking. Yeah,

totally. They're barely inside. Okay, so they're

talking to some local cool kids. These kids are

talking about how they snuck into the hospital

to make out, which is that like... A horny, inducing

environment like an abandoned, insane asylum.

If your boyfriend wants to make out with you

in scary places, he's a scary person. That's

a red flag. Or your girlfriend, whomever, wants

to be making out in weird places like this, I

do not approve. If they want to go explore, that's

different. If they want to actually go and, you

know. Listen, I think one time may be fine. If

they want to keep going back to the scary places.

Then we make out. This is a pattern. Yeah. They're

probably going to kill you. They need some deep,

deep therapy. Yeah. For sure. Something's up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But while they're making out,

I guess he makes out with his eyes open, which

is also another red flag. Another red flag. That's

the biggest one, honestly. How about if I do

a little bit of the eyes open and make out? Oh,

man. All right. A little great. That's your serial

killer trait. But yeah, the guy sees a ghost

dude standing at the end of the hallway. He's

wearing a white hospital gown with a shaved head.

So that killed the boner and they had to get

him out of there. That'll do it. And I'm glad

he did see it. I'm glad his eyes were open and

he saw that and he'd get me out of there. Is

that going to be your excuse? Valid point. Yes.

Valid point. Yeah. That's her reasoning. Open.

Then our last interview. Thank God. Let me scroll

down and make sure this is actually the last

interview. Don't you lie to us. Listen, girl,

this is your podcast. You do what you want. They

speak to a local gardener named Javier Ortega

and Lance tries to interview him about ghostly

activity and it goes poorly because Javier is

like, yo, I just started here, bro. Like, I haven't

seen anything. So Lance is like, hey, I'll give

you 20 bucks if you pretend that you saw something

and you make up a story. And Javier's like...

Fuck it. Why not? So he makes up some story.

Very, you know, generic. Saw a ghost over there

in that corner. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I saw

a ghost. So funny. He doesn't sell it at all.

He's like, yeah, I saw a ghost. No, he just instantly

changes his tune. He's like, yeah, over there.

Saw a ghost. Good for you, Javier. What a businessman.

Lance clearly doesn't really believe that any

of this is real. So that is something to... take

note of. I would argue that he does think it's

real. I just think they haven't found anything,

so they just have to keep making shit up. Because

I do think he really wants to find something

real in this movie. I think he really articulates

that at one point. Maybe we'll actually find

something this time. But he's also making a movie

or a TV show, so he has to make sure it's entertaining.

Yeah. Okay. So, that's my argument for Lance.

That's a fine line to balance, though. If you're

just trying to make something entertaining, And

you're willing to make things up to sell the

entertainment. I know, I know. How much of a

believer are you truly? Yeah, this is why ghost

hunting shows are really hard. Like, there's

a lot of criticism of them, and I do agree with

it. Because you can't, like, make ghosts do a

thing when you're there, you know? Yep. They're

like cats. Yeah, they might be on PTO. Yeah,

they might be on PTO. Okay, and then Lance calls

in their team's psychic medium. His name is Houston

Gray. Pretty cool name there for a psychic medium.

Totally. And he's here to assist with the investigation.

And as Lance escorts him around the hospital,

Houston really puts in a great performance. He's

really trying to sell this here. He does sell

it. He's like, oh man, wow, I'm getting some

energies over here. And Lance yells cut. And

so they got to redo it again or whatever. So

it's really showing that this is a TV show. It's

a production. Yeah. And I don't really think

it shows that like, they actually believe that

they're going to capture anything. They're just

really just trying to make a TV show at this

point. We're just trying to make sure that we

get the vibes right, that we're making sure that

it's entertaining, that it is just solely a TV

show. Their stakes are very low, I think, when

it comes to a haunting aspect. Or like a spooky

factor, I think. At this point. Yes, it doesn't

stay low for very long. No, it does not. Our

tech guy, Matt, he sets up night vision cams

around the place at all these hot spots. So the

hallway, a patient's room, the bathroom, that

window room, and the service tunnels. And he

then runs through a breakdown of all their equipment.

So they have tape recorders for their EVPs, their

electronic voice phenomenon to capture those,

thermometers to catch cold spots, and an EMF

meter, which... I'm not really quite sure what

that is. An electromagnetic meter. It's supposed

to, evidently, I mean, the theory is that ghosts

are made of, um, electro, like, they're made

of, like, the same, like, things that, like,

um, an EMF meter would measure. Like, I don't

know what you guys. And so the idea is, like,

you walk around, like, a haunted location with

an EMF meter, if you see a spike in the EMF meter,

there might be a ghost in that room. Or in that,

wherever you are, if there's a spike. If that

makes sense. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. So the electromagnetic

fields. If it's not clear, Missy is obsessed

with ghost adventures. Obsessed is a strong word.

That's why we're here. Obsessed is a strong word.

Sorry. Big fan? I'm a big fan. Big fan. I'm a

big fan of the previous season. I don't like

the new stuff. Oh. A big fan would say that.

The connoisseur. Whatever. I don't actually love

the show, but I love that you love it. Thank

you. That's what it's about. That's true friendship

right there. And that's why we're here, really.

We all have our trash TV. You like the Bravo

girlies. Oh, yes. And actually, in the Bravo

universe, it has been a wild week. By the time

we've made this, I'm not sure that much of our

audience or your audience are aligned with me

on this. But for those that are... This is the

week that we found out about Scamanda. That's

all I'll say. That's all I need to say. Everyone

knows. Wait, like the podcast series Scamanda?

Nope. Okay. Sorry. Keep going, Brandon. Love

Island. This is for us. Okay. Sorry. I have no

idea. Love Island USA. That's my trash. That's

yours? Yeah. We all have our things. It's a way

for us to kind of plug. The USA is a choice.

Yeah. We haven't watched it. So me and my wife,

that's our Saturday routine. We'll watch Love

Island, have a glass of wine, a couple glasses

of wine. Very cute. But yeah, Love Island, USA.

Peacock is expensive as fuck, so I want to cancel

that. So we probably will transition to the UK

one on a different service. The UK one is exactly

the same, except that they say funny little...

Their words are funny. Wanker. Yeah. Yeah, they

say other things. Fanny. Yeah. Well, oh. That's

a naughty people. Sorry. So yeah, Kenny comes

along then or wraps up the tour and he locks

them in. Serious. Like really locks them in.

Big ass padlock. T .C.'s fist. Sorry, that's

part of the deal. They lock themselves in there?

Yeah, that's also what they do in Ghost Adventures.

They do that in Ghost Adventures too. Yeah, they

really. That's where I'm nope out of that. They

really commit. Don't lock me anywhere. Yeah.

Locked in until 6 a .m. the next day. So eight

full hours. And it's pitch black in there. The

only light they have is from the little stand

they set up and then their cameras and their

flashlights. So a lot of the scenes in the film

are shot using night vision. Lance says they're

in search of spirits that were unsettled in life

and possibly unsettled in the afterlife. So he's

looking for some chaos. He is looking for some

chaos for sure. And going around these various

hotspots, they're trying to communicate with

the spirits using the tape recorder and trying

to capture some EVP. And Sasha sits herself in

the patient's room by herself, all by herself,

where all that wild ass scribbling is over the

walls. And she's trying to get the spirit to

respond. Lance goes into the bathroom and sits

in that bathtub where the patient killed herself.

In the bathtub. Also trying to feel a little

bit more connected, I guess, to this spiritual

realm. These people are ballsy. Yes, that is

one word to use. Ballsy, stupid, however you

want to put it. And then Matt demonstrates some

common sense. He's at the station monitoring

all these various camera feeds and he asks why

he has to be the one sitting by himself. Why

am I alone? He wants some company here. Then

down in the service tunnel, they go back down

there and they hear some strange noises. And

after investigating, they discover it's just

a couple of rats. So Lance says this place is

about as haunted as a sock drawer. Oh, no. It's

pretty funny. He's jinxing himself. Super famous

last words there, Lance. Yes. That's also a pretty

funny line. Yeah. And then finally, at 4 .26

a .m., that's when shit starts to pop off. I

know, they were so close to being done. So close

to being done. But the window cam captures the

window opening up on its own very slowly, very

creepily. And the team is downstairs at the time,

and they're using... They're using a special

light to look at some weird stuff on the walls.

I don't even know what this was. It's like a

black light. It looks like jizz to me. That's

what I thought it was, too. Lance calls it residual

ectoplasmic material, which definitely sounds

like ghost jizz. Ectoplasm pretty much is ghost

jizz. You're right. Yes, a ghost came and jizzed

on these walls, and now we're looking at it with

our special black light. We're expecting it.

We're not looking at it. or inspecting it with

a black light. They're going for it. It's DNA

composition. It probably took, like, a little

taste test as well. You know, like, hmm. Ghosts

in the corner, like, what the fuck are they doing?

Very ectoplastic right here, yes. The ghost is

like, yeah. The ghost is like, no. Like, the

ghost is looking at them like... You guys are

fucking weird. I'm revealing too much about myself.

Right here, let me give you some more ectoplasmic

material to analyze real quick. Here you go.

I can go again, I guess. I don't know. You can

have refractory periods. Yeah, some ghost fans.

So, the ghost is fuckable. I do save a theory

about the window. Okay. Okay. Time to talk about

the window. So the window that opens, right?

And I would argue that the window opens, something

comes in, and when Matt closes the window, he

closes whatever came in into the building, and

that's when everything goes south. Sure. It did

seem like, why would you close it if it was open?

Because for me, it's like, whatever is in here

wants to leave. Or they want it open. They want

a little... Fresh air. Do you guys really feel

like you need to keep closing and locking this

thing that keeps opening itself? I say leave

it open. Leave it open. I think it's very stupid

that Matt closes it. Because I think with Matt

closing it, it fucks all of them. He doomed everybody.

That's an interesting theory. Thank you. I didn't

think about it like that. You bring me a real

deep thought. Yeah. We're really deep thinkers

over here at Grimbley, let me tell you. I believe

it. Go listen to the Flatwoods Monster episode

and we can confirm that for you. It's a good

episode. Lance sends TC to go get some B -roll

by filming the hallways and he comes across a

wheelchair sitting in the middle of one of those

hallways. Just objectively so fucking creepy.

Yeah. Like, no one is not creeped out by that.

That's like a classic spooky image. Period. Hella

creepy. Yeah. And TC is like, wow, how did we

miss this the first time? Well, spoiler alert,

probably because it wasn't there the first time.

TC, yeah. I do think your brain just kind of

makes sense. You're like, oh, we just must have

missed that. Instead of being like, oh, something

rolled that here. You're lucky I didn't trip

over that. This big ass wheelchair in the middle

of the hallway that we would have to walk around

to get through the hallway. Wow. TC gets a phone

call from his lady and he needs to help put their

kid down for bed. And while he does this, he

puts the camera down on the ground and he has

his back to the chair. And the camera captures

footage of the chair moving on its own. But of

course, TC misses this because his back's to

it. So the audience is like, whoa, that's creepy

shit. Could you imagine if you... In this scenario,

like, they get out, and they go back and just

watch all that B -roll, and they see the wheelchair

moving, like, later. How fucking creepy that

would be. Even just, like, after. Just being

like, what the hell just happened there? Oh,

yeah. Like, just so, so creepy, no matter what.

Yeah, if that was real life. Objects should not

move on their own. No. Wild wheels. Yeah. Anything,

I mean. Frowned upon. Zero out of ten stars.

Do not recommend. Also, that kid is still up

at 4 a .m. That's wild. That's true. Poor mom.

Okay. Yeah. Sorry. I'm trying to think of, like,

where in the world they would be. Oh, maybe,

like, different time zones, but maybe. I don't

know. Maybe I had, like, a bad dream. I got from

a nightmare or something. Yeah, maybe something.

Oh, right, because he says something about monsters,

right? He's like, oh, yeah, the monsters aren't

real. Oh. Which is foreshadowing. Oh, no. Which

is foreshadowing. Foreshadowing for real, dude.

But he continues his exploration, getting his

B -roll on his journey, and he walks into a room

and comments on how cold it is right before the

door slams behind him. And he thinks the crew

is messing with him. Why do they always do this?

Why are you guys fucking with me? I mean, because

it's the first thing. I guess it's the logical

explanation. I don't know. They're not fucking

with you. You're also hoping desperately that

what's happening is not happening. I guess that's

true. Yeah. They run up to where TC is and they're

trying to get the ghost to slam the door again

or show some other sign of its presence. So Lance

is trying to talk to him and they're not really

getting any feedback until they hear a loud bang.

And then they go to investigate that. Again,

if I'm hearing sounds in an abandoned ghostly

hospital, I'm not investigating anything personally.

I would argue the bang is the evidence. Like,

you don't need to go find, I guess. Right. Yeah.

But they go to where that bang was, and they

find an overturned gurney with its wheels spinning.

Oh, yes. That's so creepy. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Yes. So creepy. Like, the wheels still spinning

is, like, this thing was absolutely moving. Yes.

Like, this isn't, like, us. This just happened.

Yeah, this literally just happened. We're not

making this up. The wheels are moving. Great

episode. Great episode for them at this point.

They have all they need at this point. They have

all they need at this point, right? Yeah. Let

the cameras that they already set up get the

rest of the footage. They can just go huddle

by the door. It was 426. Yeah, they literally

had like an hour and a half. That was it. Like,

we're done. We're good. And then they hear more

sounds coming from a higher floor, so they go

up there to... investigate yet again and houston

is like if someone is here fucking with us we

have a permit and you don't like what a thing

to like go at somebody like we have a permit

you're not allowed to be here like yeah all right

bro it's very karen it's very karen of him very

karen congrats on your paperwork uh houston what's

that gonna do against the ghost yeah right and

sasha tries the evp again and they hear some

static this time before something grabs her hair

from behind so you see her hair like lift up

in the air like they'll let you yeah yep yep

and so now shit's no longer fun um for her at

least so she's like i'm ready to get out of here

she's an intelligent woman yeah yeah it's like

we have enough let's get the fuck out of here

and houston wants to leave too um but lance tells

him nah just like escort sasha downstairs but

you come back up afterwards and houston's like

man fuck i don't want to do that bro but Just

Pants Lance is the boss, so they gotta listen

to him. Sometimes no is a full sentence, guys.

Sometimes no is a full sentence. That's a bar

right there. I need that on my next Grimley sticker.

But again, Lance is Just Pants Lance. To be clear.

He is still creaming all over himself about this

real paranormal activity. He is so Stoked. This

is what he came for. It really is. Yes, this

is his golden ticket to stardom. Assuming he

doesn't get killed first. Yeah, like if I was

making a ghost hunting TV show and this shit

happened up to this point, I'm set for life.

Set for life, bro. The books I'm gonna write.

Yes. The conventions I'm going to speak at. Like,

I am, you know, I'm gonna be booked and busy.

He's the man. Booked, blessed, and busy is gonna

be Lance after this. That's what he's thinking.

And I feel like this part kind of, like, aged

better maybe than some of the other parts of

the movie. Like, this whole notion that content

over everything, that's what matters. Like, you're

seeing all this crazy shit, this unexplainable

shit, probably dangerous shit. No, we see people

filming the craziest shit now and just get the

likes and, you know, the comments and stuff.

I guess people, like, just say the craziest shit

just to get the comments. That's true. On their

like, you know, whatever, on their social media.

So like, it's not really that out of pocket to

think that someone would be like, yeah, let's

fucking do this. Like, we're here. Let's do it.

You know, let's keep going. I think my question

is like, is he a true believer? Is he skeptic?

I think he is a true believer. I just think he

is maybe a little bit jaded from doing the TV

show. I've never been hurt before. I've seen

weird stuff. Right. But how bad can it get? Yeah.

Yeah, but being jaded, though, from the TV show,

could that have turned him into a skeptic now?

I got skeptic advice from him, big time. Yeah,

same thing, but... I think he's maybe... If you

really believe that this is really dangerous,

I feel like you would be like, okay, for the

safety of everybody, we should leave. It seems

like the only reason he trudges into the abyss

is because he's like, what's the worst that could

happen? I think he trudges into the building

thinking that nothing's going to happen, because

he is a little bit of a skeptic who wants to

believe. And then once... you know, maybe internally

there's always been, like, this kind of confliction,

and then he's, like, seeing it actually happen

in real life. He's like, holy shit, it's actually

finally happening. It's occurring. And Nick is

hopeful. He's excited about it. Like, I'm finally

capturing something that I've always wanted to

capture. Yeah, and maybe it just sneaks up on

him how real it really is. Yeah, and I think

eventually it almost is, like, a defense mechanism

for him to, like, continue filming and, like,

pretending it's still a TV show. Even when shit's

going really south, he's like, This is just a

TV show. It's okay. Like, we're going to get

out of here. Like, we're going to, you know,

it's going to be fine. Like, but we have all

the footage now. Like, it's almost like he's

trying to, like, defend his own psyche. Sure.

Pretending. Sure. A little bit. While inside

of a... Very insightful. Thank you. That is very

insightful. I think you should take over from

here on out. Absolutely not. I'm loving sitting

back. After begging the spirit to show another

sign and getting nothing, Lance then snaps a

few pictures and says they can go home, but they

end up lost. It seems like the hospital may be

rearranging itself. No, I don't think I understood

that. I didn't capture that. She was sending

me reels as she was actively probably watching

this movie. It's fine. Multitasking. Multitasking,

yes. She's a multitasking queen. No, this is

like, yeah, this is, I think. One of the more

scarier parts of this movie. Now they're just

trapped in there. Yeah. I like that. That's a

very interesting concept. Yeah. Agreed. You're

never going to get out. Death awaits, it says.

And then Lance and Matt try to reach each other

on their walkie -talkies, but neither one was

able to hear the other. So they're also scrambling

comms in there. And at 6 .15, they all gather

in the lobby ready for Kenny to come and let

them out. But as they pack up and time passes,

there's no sign of Kenny. And Matt goes to collect

all the cameras by himself. Abso -fucking -lutely

not. Yeah. By himself. Someone is coming with

me. Yes. If anything else, just to help me carry

out the fucking gear. Like, what? A lot of gear.

A lot of gear. It's like four floors worth of

gear. Yeah. No way. At 723, there is still no

sign of Kenny. And they also haven't heard from

Matt in a while. So they're like, okay, maybe

we should go look for him. So Lance, Sasha, TC,

they go look for him while Houston hangs back

by himself again. No, I'm not being by myself

at any point in this scenario. Absolutely not.

I'm going to be like a little baby monkey just

clinging to somebody. Yeah. I need a buddy. I'm

like the sloth that slowly reaches out. And grabs

you. And, like, pulls you in. And you're like,

nope. We're together. We are one. We are staying

together the entire time. Facts. But as they

walk the halls looking for Matt, they find all

of his equipment has been strewn along the floor.

And now they make another decision to split up

yet again. Stupid. They always split up. For

what? Always split up, you know? And Sasha was

like, no. Like, let's not split up. At that point,

she's like, they're not going to listen to her.

No, she's the only girl in the room, unfortunately.

Yeah. She's the only one that speaks ghost, by

the way. Yeah. Should we listen to her? But Lance

is like, Sasha, you come with me and TC, you

go that way. And I would have never agreed to

that. Especially because the way that TC gets

more, as he gets more scared, as you said earlier,

Missy. He just becomes a bigger asshole. He becomes

an asshole. He just becomes such a dick. And

the way he just yells at Houston and stuff, I'm

like, girl, you're not helping. Yeah, I'm surprised

you didn't do that here in this instance where

you're like, hey, go by yourself. No, absolutely

not. I feel like this would have been the most

justifiable situation to be an asshole. 100%,

100%. They're like, you can go by yourself. I'm

like, I was Sasha. If you want people to split

up, yeah. Got it, Lance. Not me, bro. But as

TC walks around, he's on some stairs and he gets

pushed down the stairs by something unseen. So

now he begins to unravel. He's ready to get the

fuck out of there. Yeah. He's so scared. And

like, he's just such a dick after this. And like,

it's hard to, I don't know, not be like, shut

the fuck up, TC. But it's also sad when he dies.

No, it's not like I'm not sad. I'm just like,

God, you're being such a dick. You're not helping.

It's like the worst type of counterproductive.

He's the worst type of scared. Where he's like

lashing out at everybody. Sure. Because he's

so scared. And it's just like, you're not going

to actually be helpful to make sure we get out

of here. You're actually making it worse. But

I understand that you are scared. He just needs

someone to talk to him. Give him a hug. I don't

know. Yeah. Be like, cry it out, girl. It's okay.

But they make their way back to the lobby and

they try to call Kenny, but there's no signal

on their phones. And so there's a... gurney nearby

that they grab and they start ramming the locked

door with it and after a few attempts they're

finally successful only to find themselves face

to face with another hallway yes and this is

like kind of like peak spookiness i think of

the movie because like brandon you talk about

a lot like why didn't you just leave? In most

episodes, there's a point where you just should

have fucking left. And now they can't. Now they

can't. Yeah, and it's just such a creepy, scary

scenario. Because really, they just thought they

were making a ghost show. They didn't think they

would have to leave, right? They just thought

some spooky show was happening. Now we can break

the door and we can get out. And now the door

leads to nothing. It's a maze. Yeah, it's literally

a maze that keeps moving. And they can't leave.

A labyrinth? Is that what a labyrinth is? I think

that is what a labyrinth is. A labyrinth, yep.

But they're a little confused when they see this

hallway. And they're like, wait, didn't we come

in through this door? Isn't this the lobby? And

as they turn around, they see that that door

has Death Awaits written on it, just like it

did when they first entered. Which is supposed

to be the front entrance. Supposed to be the

front entrance. They are fucked. They are big

fucked. Big fucked. But they keep walking and

they end up finding another locked door with

an emergency exit sign over it. And after kicking

that door in, it reveals, you guessed it, another

hallway. So they are big fucked. They're big

time fucked. Yeah. Yes. All of them are just

like in like slowly panicking. Yeah. You can

see them kind of being like, what the hell? This

doesn't make any sense. But like they're trying

to like kind of. logic their way out of it, because

they don't want to believe that they are fucked.

It's just, I don't know, it's really just the

scariest moment of the movie, I think. Mm -hmm,

that tension started to ramp up for sure. Yes,

the tension really starts to build, and they're

just like, what do we do? The time is now 834,

and Lance says that the sun was supposed to be

shining by 745, yet somehow it is still pitch

black outside. So they are royally fucked. Oh,

it's like daylight. Yeah. We are in a different

dimension now. I think the window fucked them.

They gotta go open that window. Get the hell

out of there. And now the time stamp says it's

1 .12pm. So it's been a few hours. And so everyone

was asleep taking a nap. They take a lot of naps

in this movie. They do take a lot. I mean, like,

I can't. I've never seen people nap so much while

being haunted. It's crazy. I mean, like, they're

probably just in, like, adrenaline shock. And

then, like, their bodies just, like, try to,

like, calm down. And so, like, they're probably

just exhausted. Maybe? It's a lot of sleeping.

A lot of sleeping. Well, like, didn't, um, isn't

this the point where Lance says that he sets

an alarm for an hour? And he sleeps, like, seven

hours at this point? Yep. Yep. Yep, so yeah,

everyone's asleep while Lance is recording his

little solo vlog shit. And he says he hasn't

slept in about 20 hours, so he's going to set

an alarm for an hour and take a nap. And then

everyone's asleep. Like, how does every single

person go to sleep? I don't know. Dangerous situation

101. Someone needs to be on watch at all times

and you rotate, right? Absolutely. Not that you'd

be able to do anything anyway. So while they're

taking their nap, it's important to point out

that nobody has asked about matt for however

many hours this has been he's just been missing

somewhere for like six hours bro and they're

just like hard to like not not blame them but

like also like they're also in like the worst

case scenario and they're probably just they

probably haven't like really thought about it

they're like i guess matt's dead i don't fucking

know yeah because he's not here and he's not

come back so he's probably dead somewhere screw

the equipment at this point yeah yeah it's real

r .i .p matt So, yeah, that was, like, at 1 .12,

and then now it's 9 .41 p .m. Oh, so they've

been, like, a full day. They're all still asleep.

Four hours, yeah. Yes, yes, they slept a full

eight hours, and then the big light they had

propped up in the lobby falls over and breaks,

which startles them all awake. Lance says his

cell phone says 8 p .m., while the cameras show

9 .41 p .m., so now we're starting to see the

timing differences. Yeah, the timing is, like,

freaking out. Yeah. Interesting. They packed

food in the cooler. When they go to open it,

everything is rotten and maggot infested as well.

Which means it's been way more than 24 hours.

Yes. Is the food, like, not moving on this plane

in the cooler and, like, everything else is?

And, like, the food's, like, actually in the

real world or, like, vice versa? That's a good

question. So weird. It sucks. Not to be able

to have a sandwich in this moment. Oh my god,

you're right. Not an ideal situation. No, they

have water, I guess, like, what they say, but

it's still just, like, shit. Like, of course.

Of course we don't have sandwiches now. Ugh.

Like, how? Listen, I would've tried to find those

sandwiches in hour two. I wouldn't. I would be

sweating and gone. Stress eating, for sure. I

am stressed. I need a sandwich. I don't know

what to do anymore. I've already ate those sandwiches.

And they can eat Matt's sandwich, too. He won't

need it. Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, Matt's...

Fuck Matt. But someone devises a plan that they

should try to get up to the roof and use the

fire escape to get down to the ground. I think

it was TC when he was taking his footage outside

the building. It is a very smart plan, yeah.

The ladder. And so they head back upstairs, and

after wandering around for a while, they end

up finding a sign that... points to roof access

and when they turn the corner on the stairwell

all they see is a blank wall so shitty i would

just probably like i would just be in a ball

and just start crying yes definitely like we

are not leaving this place god imagine now you're

like am i here forever now like forever right

like am i dead already like is this purgatory

like or is this hell like what the fuck happened

yeah And TC is completely unraveled at this point.

Like, he's losing his shit. Like, he's very combative

towards everybody. He just wants to get the fuck

out of there. He's being an asshole. Which is

understandable. They find a map of a place on

one of the walls, and it's all confusing. Things

seem to be jumbled and out of place, and they

have a compass that's just spinning around in

a circle. And then they hear some screaming in

the distance, and they finally, at this point...

13 14 however many hours later remember that

oh yeah matt's been missing and so they take

off running towards the sound of his screaming

or they assume it's matt screaming and they end

up in a room with a bed frame that lifts up into

the air on its own it gets tossed around so they're

really getting all this paranormal activity and

uh lance does another one of his solo vlogs and

talks about how they still haven't been able

to find matt and they're not sure if he's okay

Did you not hear him screaming, bro? Like, he's

probably not okay. I'm pretty sure Matt's not

okay. I would argue none of you are okay. Okay,

but talk about professional. He's like, I gotta

get the content. The show must go on. The show

must go on. I think he's just trying to, like,

give himself a job in his head. Fair. No, that's

actually probably, like, not a bad way to handle

it. Yeah, like, I'm just gonna keep pretending

I'm making a TV show. Keep it moving. Yeah, keep

it moving. Keep this train chugging. I don't

think this movie was, like, designed to be, like,

a think piece, per se, but I feel like as time

has gone on, like, maybe, like, inadvertently

became one, because, like, that really encapsulates,

like, people's approach to social media, these

content creators these days. No matter what,

the show must go on. Yeah, the good, bad, the

ugly, right? Yes. We gotta get in the YouTube

algorithm, dog. There's an audience for this,

whatever it is. Yeah, absolutely. Yes, yes. Which,

you know, I guess just was ahead of its time.

There you go. Yes. An art film. Yes. This is

a high -class art film. But now they've at least

learned to sleep and shift, so they take another

nap. So this is now nap number two, at least.

Honestly, I would probably just be napping, too.

Like, I'm fucking up for it. I'm over it. Like,

I'm just gonna nap, I guess. I told you. Wake

me when it happens. Wake me up when this nightmare

ends. Well. They wake up from their nap and another

nightmare begins because Sasha, they discover,

has the word hello carved into her back. Like

fully her entire back. Yes. It's not like little

either. It's big. It's her entire back. From

nape to butt. Ass. Yes, crack. This is great

makeup because it looks real. It does. The way

that they did it, they did a really good job.

Yes, practical effects always trump CGI. But

after they discover this, they're like, okay,

I guess let's keep moving. And so they're once

again looking for Matt. And they see someone

run across the hall. And Houston was like, that's

Matt. It's some person wearing like a hospital

gown. And they go running down the hallway chasing

after this quote unquote Matt. And they end up

in these like this communal bathroom kind of

deal. There's a woman standing in the corner

who is most definitely not Matt. And things start

to get a little spooky. I mean, they've been

spooky, but now I think they're starting to really

feel like all this spooky shit. And so this woman

is like rocking back and forth, like whispering

to herself, just seeing something's definitely

awry here. And she turns around and her face...

turns all demonic and it's like, ah! She screams

and shit and it's like a jump scare. Whenever

I think of this movie, I think of that image

specifically of the woman with the big gaping

mouth screaming. Yes, gaping mouth. It's pretty

iconic, I'm not gonna lie. I think it maybe is

one of the first times that ever happened in

a movie like this, like a found footage horror

movie. At least for me. It's like the one I remember.

Also, anytime someone's standing face towards

a corner, it's not gonna be good just leave just

go yeah like also like Blair Witch Project like

all of them like they're gone whoever's in that

corner that's no longer your business it's time

for you it's time for you to go yeah like you

have a good time in the corner I don't know what

you're doing I'm gonna leave like you do use

this I'm right there with you I'm right there

Lance, Sasha, and TC, they run away from this

gaping mouth ghost lady. And they end up hiding

out in a closet of all the places to choose.

I mean, it's confined and it's small. It's confined

and small, which means there's only one way in

and one way out. That's true. There's no room

to escape if things pop off. I'd rather be posted

up in a little closet, to be honest. Really?

So they're in the closet. Houston is notably

missing. I know, Houston's not there. He got

left behind when they chopped out. And I don't

really think I would blame anybody for this.

I think they all just fucking sprinted after

the demonic. I blame Houston. You gotta keep

up with the crowd, bro. He's like the older one

of the group, unfortunately. Not older, but like,

I mean, he's probably like, what, 50s? Yeah,

he's probably in his 50s, mid -50s. Yeah, I would

say. He got some work done, so it was kind of

hard to really pinpoint his age. He's got a good

spray tan on as well. Yeah, he has a lot going

on. He looks like handsome Squidward. A little

bit, yeah. Lance tells them to turn off their

lights in the closet, and if ghosts are really

there, do you not think that they could still

see you? Do ghosts need lights to see? People

or things? I don't think so. Bitch, the light

is staying on. No. But that's his apparently

genius tactic. So they're just scared as fuck

sitting in the dark for no reason. I don't know

what's going on here. But slow -ass Houston is

wandering down a hallway when his flashlight

dies. Oh, so scary. this poor fucking man yeah

this little old little old man old fabio looking

guy just like thought he was like just gonna

be like play a psychic on like a tv show like

probably like easy yeah easy paycheck totally

oh yeah he just stumbled around a complete darkness

like bumping into that wheelchair in the middle

of the floor and everything. Yeah, because this

is all coming from, like, the static cams. Like,

what happens to him, right? Yeah, the static

cam. He's not holding a camera. So it's night

vision. So he really cannot see shit. Yes, yes.

I would just sit down. I wouldn't even move.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to do.

Do you just sit there and wait? I don't know.

It's a labyrinth, so you're not really getting

anywhere. Yeah, but there's also screaming happening

in the clip, right? There's screaming happening

in the background. When you get lost in the woods,

they tell you to sit down. Sit the fuck down.

Stay there. Moral of the story, sit the fuck

down. How about that? Sit the fuck down. So as

we see him stumbling around in this night vision

kind of view, he goes down multiple hallways.

Like, he's definitely trying to get out of there.

So I got to give him his props and respect for

that. Yeah. I don't know. Is he looking for the

people or is he looking to get out? Like, maybe

both, I guess. Maybe both. Probably get out is

the 1A to the people's 1B. Yeah, totally. Then

he ends up getting snatched up in the air by

an invisible force. He's hoisted into the air

and he's choked. I know, that's so creepy. Yeah,

so he's just dangling, feet kicking, choking,

and you can't see anything. But somehow he manages

to break free. And then, as he tries to run away,

he gets shocked or something. And he gets flung

like 20 feet. And he seems to be dead as he gets

shot. It looks like a lightning strike. It's

weird. The flash is weird. I don't really understand

what that was. Because it almost seems a little

unnecessary. I'm not going to lie. They just

throw him across the room without the flash.

He flew. He flew down the hallway. The flash

thing was weird. Yeah. Just my editorial insight,

you know. Lance TC and Sasha, they're still in

the closet and they take another nap. Fucking

nap. Nap city around here. When they wake up

this time. I live in nap city. I love nap city.

The adrenaline is just like drained. Like you

are going through it. It's sort of you're basically

narcoleptic at this point. Maybe. They are acting

that way. He's just like, yeah. But this time

when they wake up from their nap, they have,

like, hospital patient wristbands on. And it

has all their information on it and everything.

Their name, date of birth, all that stuff. Wait,

they're all wearing the robe? No, they're not

wearing the robe. They're wearing the wristbands.

Wristbands, yeah. So they're all freaked out,

like, where did she come from? Especially Sasha.

She was like, yo. Yeah, she's like, how do they

know everything about me? Yeah. It's creepy as

fuck. it's creepy this yeah in a closet yes they

did some good things with the creepiness factor

here totally they leave the closet and start

wandering the halls again and lance is still

documenting everything and sasha finally is like

fed up with this bullshit she's like yo this

is not it's not tv bro like like what are you

doing yeah yeah she's like stop this horse shit

i think was the phrase that she used yeah um

and as they're like fair yeah she definitely

had a point And as they're, like, walking through

this hallway, there's, like, cells or whatever

on the edges of the hallway. And Sasha has her

back to one of the doors of the cells. And while

she's, like, cooking Lance, like, you know, telling

him to, like, stop this bullshit, an arm crashes

through the little glass window in one of the

doors and, like, grabs her. So that's, like,

our next, like, big, big jump scare. Is this

also when all the, like, where they walk to the

hallway and all the doors are open? That's a

little... I think it's a little bit later. Oh,

it's a little bit later. Okay, sorry. Yeah, yeah.

I'm jumping the gun. No, you're good. And then...

That was... That's also very creepy. Yeah. It

was scary. The pop out and, like, the grab is,

like... Yeah, no thank you. And they take off,

start running again, and they find Matt, finally,

after however many hours. And he's, like, sitting

on the ground, and this time he's wearing a hospital

gown. And he's in shambles. He is definitely

not the same Matt. He's, like, real, like, twitchy

and, like, acting like a full -blown patient

in this facility. Yeah, because originally, like,

Matt was, like, kind of snarky, like, just smoking,

like, kind of a dickhead, but, like, funny, you

know, type of guy. And, like, then they find

him, and he's, like, completely fucked mentally.

and Lance queues up another one of his little

solo vlogs, and he's like, we found Matt. He's

all fucked up. And that shit made me laugh, bro.

I was rolling. He's all fucked up. No shit, Sherlock.

Thank you, Captain Obvious. It's so glib. but

like honestly i didn't know how else to put it

because i was like yeah that's fucked up now

he's fucked up he's not he's not wrong he's definitely

all fucked up like you say that everyone understands

what you're saying fuck the word that has infinite

meaning yeah fuck is a great word yeah yes but

the way he looked into the camera and just like

delivered that like he's all fucked up i was

like oh my god and my captions like froze at

that moment too so the movie kept going but it's

just like he's all fucked up stayed at the bottom

and uh so after delivering this uh this gem they

take another nap so i think we're at like four

naps now i think this is four naps yeah all right

so they're napping At least three days, right?

So, I mean, the footage they sent in was like

76 hours, right? So that's three days, three

days, four hours. That's about three days, yeah.

So, I mean, four naps in three days without sleeping?

Yeah, okay. It's fine. I'm wondering, are they

sleeping on the hard ground? Oh, yeah. I don't

like that. You must be real dead tired for that.

Like, I'm a nap defender till I die, okay? I

like naps as well, but when appropriate. Yeah.

Yeah. It's either that or you're actually in

the loony bin. Like you are, you will go insane

and die without sleep. Yeah. I would argue that

this is the best thing they can do for themselves

to take a constant. I mean, you need a lookout

though. You need someone always awake. Sure.

Sure. Well, he said they were doing shifts. Yeah,

they were doing, they're doing shifts still.

I think, I think now they, they stopped the shifts.

Got it. Okay. Yeah. Why even bother? Cause I

think by nap three, like TC was supposed to be

watching and, He fell asleep, and that's when

they woke up with the hospital bracelets on.

Gotcha. And Sasha was, like, yelling at him.

She was like, you fucking fell asleep. Leave

him alone. Yeah. My bad. My bad. He's like, I'm

so sorry. Couldn't help it. Yeah. And this time,

when they're napping, they're awoken by, like,

evil screaming. And, like, a bunch of, like...

Big ass arms are coming out of the walls trying

to grab them. That was very spooky. Yes. Yep.

So when that patient, the patient's room earlier

with the demons in the walls, I hear we see that

coming to fruition with these arms reaching out

trying to grab them. And they run away and they

end up back in the bathroom with that tub where

the patient killed herself. But now, now the

tub is filled with bloody, bloody water. I don't

like it. I don't like it. Yeah. They're like,

they're like, fuck, this is getting worse. Not

great, guys. Right. So they, like, the main three,

they try to run away, but Matt ends up, like,

standing by the tub, and he's, like, staring

at it. Like, bye, bitch. Okay, you look at the

tub. I'm going. Like, sorry. That's clearly not

right. So at a certain point, you gotta catch

your losses. But Lance is like, hey, TC, go grab

him. Which noticeably, or notably, like, Lance

loves sending TC to do things. He doesn't do

it himself. And TC needs to be like, fuck you,

no. He needs to be like, fuck you. He's been

saying fuck you for a lot of things at this point.

Except for this. He agrees to this. I don't understand

that. So TC goes to try to grab Matt, and he's

like, guys, he's not coming. He's whatever. And

then a little ghost, skeleton, demon -looking

thing pops up out of the tub, grabs TC, and pulls

him into the water. and it's some freaky ass

shit yes and it's not good like they're like

i think i think maybe at this point lance was

the one holding the camera from their from the

film's point of view and so he drops the oh he

drops the camera yeah and so they're trying to

get tc out of the tub and uh eventually they

flip the tub and when they flip the tub all the

water empties out but there is no tc he yeah

he's gone gone he's 86 from the chap yeah he's

out he's out of here he's gone to the bathtub

dimension which is really like so fucking scary

so fucking scary because you're like there's

there's no logic there it yeah like he's nothing

makes sense he was pulled into the tub and now

he's just gone like what the fuck then lance

matt and sasha they end up discovering an elevator

shaft as they exit this bathroom. And they decide

the best plan is to climb down to reach the service

tunnels and then they can walk over to one of

the connected buildings. Which is, like, also

one of the other, like, original plans besides

the roof. And they were like, let's not go in

the tunnels because it's pitch black and our,

like, flashlights could die and we'd be fucked,

right? Like, that was, like, they were talking

about, like, which... scenario they should do

they should either like do the roof or they should

do the tunnels and i think they decided on the

roof initially which is i think the smarter move

of course hindsight is 2020 but had they gone

down into the tunnel first then they would have

had more juice in their batteries in their camera

yeah yeah i don't know if it would have been

better i don't know it's like i if i had to make

a choice between the two the tunnels or the roof

i would pick the roof yeah me too i would i would

also pick the roof for sure roof and fire escape

not just you know being stuck on the roof now

But at least you're outside. At least there's

fresh air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like Jesus

at this point. But they're unable to open the

elevator doors. And by they, I mean Lance, because...

Matt and Sasha just really sat there on their

ass. Didn't help him at all. They just watched

him struggle. And then he's like, alright, so

I need something to give me some leverage or

whatever. So he goes off alone, looking for something

to wedge the doors open with. And he ends up

finding that overturned gurney from before when

the wheels were spinning. And he pulls off one

of the little bars on it. So he has this pipe

kind of deal. This blunt instrument. And then

you see something on the floor in the corner

of this room, and he gets closer. Don't investigate.

Just walk away. Don't investigate. What he does,

it's a fucking tongue in a pool of blood. Just

a severed tongue sitting there. He's like, what

the fuck? Is that a tongue? And as he's looking

at this, additional drops fall down. So he's

like, oh, something's above me. And he looks

up, and there's some fucking demonic. goes sitting

in the corner tongueless motherfucker yes yes

up in the corner just like screams with that

big gaping mouth and lance is like yeah yeah

yep so he runs away frightened um absolutely

but he he manages to escape and he gets back

to the elevator and he gets the doors open but

they hear old tongueless dude uh coming back

on his way to to ruin their escape party so Lance

is like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to

go confront this ghost. But as he does this whole

bravado display, he noticed that he drops the

pipe on the ground. He drops the pipe, yeah.

And picks up his camera instead. So this continues

to feed into this notion that content above all

is crazy. And so, yeah, the ghost like pulls

up on him and Lance is like trying to fight it,

fight it off. And so he's using one hand to fight

the ghost off and the other hand to hold the

camera. And then like Sasha goes to assist him.

So they're trying to close the door. And while

they're doing this, Matt picks up, I think, Sasha's

camera. And so we like the point of view changes.

And so we can see Matt or see Lance and Sasha

struggling with this door, trying to keep the

ghost out. Yeah. Matt just kind of like looking,

standing there watching them. And then he turns

the camera on himself and he's like giggling

to himself. Yeah. He's like fully catatonic.

He's all fucked up. Yeah. Honestly, I think it'd

be Matt. I would like to be Matt at this point.

Yeah. Oh, totally. Yes. Just walking around.

He's in his own world. My own little internal

like, you know, radio happening. Just having

a good time. because that seems like what's happening

for him. Everyone else is having a bad time.

He's having a better time than everyone else.

For sure. But those good vibes for Matt don't

last very long because he then turns, takes a

peek down the elevator shaft and takes a swan

dive to the bottom of the shaft. No, a swan dive?

Yeah. Also, I gotta argue, I still probably would

rather be Matt in this. It's the only way out.

I'm done. I'm done at this point. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. It's been days. Like, there's a tongueless

man at the swan dive. Like, I'm done. Like, goodbye.

Goodbye. Goodnight. Goodbye. R .I .P. Matt. So,

yeah. He didn't have a good time. Yeah. I think

there was a point in your notes where you asked

where they were, like, going to the bathroom

or, like, where are they peeing. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it's just always in their pants constantly.

No. Because you're right. They never take a bathroom

break. No one's ever like, I have to go take

a piss. There's a bunch of dudes. I would imagine

they would do that. I think they're just always

peeing in their pants. Is that your question?

The only thing that could make all of this worse

is wet, soggy, piss pants. So I disagree. You

know? I mean... Someone shits themselves, now

it smells, too. Yeah, now you're stinking. They're

peeing in the corner. Yeah. They're probably

peeing... Yeah, I mean, best case scenario, they're

peeing in the corner. Yeah. If you're, like,

running from a demonic fucking ghost thing...

But they haven't eaten or drank... Like, had

anything to drink, really, probably. They have

water, still. Oh, wow. They have bottles of water,

but their food's all rotted. But they have water.

Yeah. Okay. But, like, if I'm running from a

ghost, I'm probably also peeing. Okay. That's

fine. That was my point, I guess. You need to

pee a little. Yeah, I'm going to pee. That's

a fair point. I'm probably going to pee a lot.

Okay. No, same. We already talked about this

on the pod. Yes. If you are running from an entity

or you're in some kind of, there's no shame in

pissing yourself in a situation. In a scary,

scary situation. Yeah. It's allowed. Well, you

probably would all have to. Or poop yourself.

You can do whatever. Yeah. Whatever you got to

do. Yeah. My pants would definitely be soiled

for sure. Yeah. For sure. For sure. So after

Matt takes his dive down the shaft, Lance and

Sasha climb down the ladder and... Dive down

the shaft. I'm sorry. Should be a journey. Not

riding the shaft, just diving down the shaft.

Not in a fun way, let's be real. I'm sorry, Brandon.

So now they're back in the tunnels and they see

Matt's corpse and they're all... sad and shit

well sasha's sad uh lance is kind of like uh

well let me just film this real quick he's like

he records matt like looks away and then comes

back to matt again like he's trying to capture

this content he does check for a pulse i will

give him that at least okay at least sure yeah

yeah what are you gonna do about it if he's alive

i think maybe you're hoping that he's just gone

yeah right you're like please just be dead at

this point sorry that's gonna make it dark but

i'm like that's one of those i think it's already

dark we gotta find something and put him out

of his misery at this point yeah he dove face

first into an elevator shaft yeah after being

wanted to go after being gone for like 36 hours

at this haunted creepy fucking asylum that is

trying to kill us he's not gonna be okay yeah

no yeah no and once lance and sasha are back

down into these tunnels they are trying to just

like walk in one direction hoping to find an

exit somewhere, but they never reach any end

point. They walk for hours until they have to

sit down from being too tired. And Sasha collapses

and starts throwing up blood. She's also now

super fucked up. Yeah, there was a moment, I

think, earlier in the movie, she had alluded

to not feeling well. She was like, I don't feel

good. And Lance fills her forehead. She's like,

oh yeah, you have a fever. She was the only one

that had a physical She was touched by the...

Yeah, like, touched, like, the hair and then,

like, um... Like, the hello one scratched on

her back. I think she was the only one, like,

being, like, physically attacked in that way.

So I'm wondering if that was part of it. Yeah.

Maybe you just got infected from the hello. But

there's the tunnel cam down here in this night

vision as Lance and Sasha sit. against the wall

and take another nap. The tunnel cam captures

some mysterious fog that comes billowing in around

them. Oh, yeah. It's like a weird dry ice fog.

Yeah. And as it exits, Sasha is now gone. No.

So Lance is by himself in the tunnels and he's

like, Sasha, where are you? I don't think we

ever find out what happened to Sasha. I don't

think so. No, I think she's just a part of it

now. Yeah. Maybe like the best death, I would

say. to have. Like, if you had a choice, like,

I would like to disappear in a fog. Sure. As

opposed to, like, being choked and thrown across

the hallway, or thrown in an elevator shaft,

or, like, sucked into a bathtub of blood. Sucked

into a bathtub of blood. I think the fog is the

way to go, right? Yeah, yeah. You're like, just

put me in the fog. She deserved it. And now Lance,

by himself, he's in the tunnels, and he sees

a rat, and, uh... Yeah, he takes this trusty

little pipe and he beats the rat to death and

he pounces on it and eats it. Yeah, he gets feral.

Yeah. As you might. He gets really feral. He

ate and left no crumbs. Yeah, we have no idea

how long it has been for this man. Yeah. To have

eaten something. He didn't even gag while he

was eating it. That's how feral he was. He just

went to town. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know that type

of hunger. No. I hope to never not have that

type of hunger, for sure. Yeah. What scenario

would y 'all have to be in, or how much money

would it take for you to eat a tunnel rat? Raw?

Raw. Like rat tar tar? Unfiltered tunnel rat.

When I'm like put, when these questions are legitimately

posed to me, it's always shocking to me and everyone

else how little I will do something for. How

much money? $500. How much money? How much money?

Yeah. I'm doing it for $100 ,000. No, okay. No.

Yeah, I might. For $100 ,000, I might. Honestly,

that's not even that much. But I'm like, given

if you gnaw on this rat right now, do I have

to swallow? Do I have to eat the whole thing?

Is the question. Yeah, you gotta clear it. You

gotta go like Lance. $500 ,000. The whole route

will take me all day to do that. It will take

me all day to do that. Fur and all that, too?

He ate the fur. The fur is the hard part. He

ate the fur? Oh, yeah. No, he just, you know,

he just, like, really went for it. Shit. Okay,

$750. $750 ,000. $750 ,000. Price keeps going

up. I feel like a million is too much. Do it

for less than a million. Yeah, for less than

a million. I would be sick for a while. Like

750k could set you up for a long time. Yeah,

yeah. You could do some things with that. But

would you always be the girl that ate the rat?

Yeah, whatever. Fuck you. I've got investments.

I've got my rat money. I'm out of here. Yeah.

I'll be rat girl. I'll be totally fine with it.

That could be a whole brand. A rat lady. That's

your number. I think it's probably 750 as well.

Okay, I'll sell. That sounds appropriate. Thank

you. Yeah. Brandon? It does. 750 sounds appropriate.

I might go a little bit less, though. I might.

See? I'm being honest, so, okay. Eat the whole

rat. I might go as low. Are you also, like, feral

starving? I think is the other part of this.

No. No. Okay. Strictly for the money. Okay, we're

just doing strictly for cash. Okay. Would you

go as low as 300? I might go as low as like $250

to be honest. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Because given

the chance, eat the rat, get $250 or not, I'm

going to do it no matter what. I'm going to do

it. Yeah. I'm going to do it. Yeah. If I could

name my own price $750, but if someone said eat

the rat for $100 ,000, I'd probably eat the rat

for $100 ,000. Oh, they're giving you the price.

So it has to be six figures. Six figures. Six

figures. I think six figures is acceptable. Yeah,

because I'm going to feel like... If you're not,

like, fairly starving, I guess it doesn't really

make any sense then. Because you're like, I'm

going to eat the rat. I would love to eat the

rat. I'm feral. I would love to eat this rat.

I'll pay you to eat this rat. I will, in fact,

pay you to eat the rat. Alright, so he's eating

the rat. So all of our dignity is on the line.

Dignity is gone. But seeing him, like, take this

pipe and beat this rat to death, like, reminded

me of something that happened to me, though.

So, like, it's, like, a couple years ago. Like,

I was in the garage, right? I swear to God, if

I talk about eating a rat, I'm going to be so...

I didn't eat the rat. I didn't eat the rat. Okay.

No, no, I didn't eat the rat. But I opened my

garage, right? I'm taking the trash out. And

I just hear, like, this squeaking sound. I'm

like, what the fuck is that? And, like, I thought,

like, the garage was, like, rocking on its, like,

hinges or joints or whatever. Oh, like the door?

Yeah. And so, like, I'm like, where's the squeak?

Like, I look up and then I see a mouse that's,

like, been bunched up in this coil. And it's,

like, it's still alive. And I'm like, holy shit.

Like, it's, like, trapped in there and it's squeaking.

That's what I'm hearing. And so, I'm like, I

can't do anything for you, buddy. Like, you're

fucking cut. You're toast. So, yeah. But in the

garage, like, I had, like, an old, like, shower

rod. And so, like, I grabbed that shower rod

and, like, put the mouse out of its misery. It

is familiar to a thing that happened to you.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. It was crazy. It was crazy.

Granny, you just ruined my goddamn day. You know

that? I hate any time. I don't like taking animals

out. It's not fun. It's not fun. like bugs in

the house i'll take them outside like yeah all

that stuff like if i have an opportunity to not

kill this animal yeah i will take that opportunity

harder yeah yes oh there's no way there's no

way i'm gonna yeah it's wrapped up in there it

was it was done so oh yeah it was tough yeah

you did the best you could like it just yeah

yeah thanks for that definitely remind me of

that seeing this in this i think i didn't have

to eat it Yeah, that would have been horrible.

That would have been not great. Yeah. It's worse

than the room full of Pez. That's the thing your

wife does not want to know about, right? Yeah.

I mean, I told her. We were married at this point,

so she knew. I had to tell her. I was like...

She's like, what's wrong? I was like, you have

no idea what I just did. Holy shit. Like mouse

PTSD or like innocent life. Facts, yes. Sorry.

Oh, no. Oh, man. Yeah, it was tough. Not great.

Yeah, not great. You did all right. But okay,

after getting his strength back from eating this

tunnel rat, Lance continues walking. And finally,

he reaches a door at the end of this tunnel that

leads him into what appears to be like a workspace,

laboratory, clinic kind of setup. And there's

like... pictures around of like different kinds

of experiments and like anatomical models and

drawings and shit so this is where our doctor

friedkin would uh his his base of operations

right the guy that did the lobotomies right the

neurologist yeah and so lance is like walking

around still filming everything Uh, and he finds,

like, an altar with, like, some occult shit on

it. There's, like, some book on there. It looks

like it's, like, written in, like, Latin or whatever.

All these demonic books are always Latin, right?

It looks like, um, like, almost like runes. Like,

uh... Oh, runes. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it looks

like to me. It's very witchy. Yeah. How do you

describe a rune? Yeah. It's some witchy shit.

Yeah. Like Agatha Long. But as he finds this

altar, he's like, oh, shit. And he, like, knocks

something on the ground, I think, and that makes

him turn around. And then when he turns around,

he sees, like, the doctor ghost doctor and his

assistants like performing some surgery or operation

on someone and they see him and he's like oh

yeah they acknowledge him they're like yes you

don't like doing yeah what are you doing a guy

yeah and then he like pans the camera away and

then he pans back to him they're like right in

his face and then they grab him up and he's like

no i'm not crazy i'm not crazy and all this screaming

yeah he's screaming yep and then the final shot

of grave encounters is of lance his final little

solo vlog. He's talking to the camera saying

that the doctor said he can go home because he's

all better now. He's all better now. As he's

saying this, it's like a streak of blood running

through the corner of his eye because he got

lobotomized. He's livid. He's laughing. He's

lobotomized. Yes, he is. Yep. And that's how

the film ends. And he's happy. He says he's better.

Yeah, he's better. Now he can go home. Damn.

yeah good job so good yeah yeah it and i think

like the lobotomy at the end though like again

like to bring it back to the social media thing

and like this brain rot or whatever it's like

yeah you know it all like social media like alters

people's brain chemistry like it is absolutely

yeah lobotomy in and of itself and so i don't

know if this was intended when they made this

in 2011 but it's definitely we're seeing where

we're getting that right now I like the analysis

and the 2026 lens of that, I think, truly. Because,

I mean, you're not wrong. I think I feel like

I bring around myself every day when I'm just

doomscrolling. Doomscrolling, yeah. I'm not doomscrolling,

but I am scrolling. I'm having a good time. I

have curated this algorithm. My algorithm is

curated and lovely. Thank you very much. Mine's

a lot of politics. That's definitely doomy. That's

what I mean. It's hard to get out of that loop.

You're like, no, I don't want to see it, but

I try to be informed, but also I really hate

it here. Thank you. Good job. And it's a three

out of five. Three out of five. Yeah. Yeah. You

know, I think that's fair. I think that's fair

too. Yeah. I think you need to give more credit.

Three out of five. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. I

just, I like, I gave it a four out of five because

I really was just like, this is like the most

fucked up adventure. Yeah. I like that it doesn't

end well either. I think really the, I think

also the fact that. there is no way for them

to leave, I think really adds to the spooky factor

of the movie itself. Because there's a lot of

movies where you just watch and you're like,

why didn't you just fucking leave at this point?

That's really very terrifying. Yeah, I think

that really just adds to the horror of the entire

film itself. So I think they did a really good

job with that aspect. Especially when they break

down those doors and it's just another hall.

They're doubly fucked at that point. And I think

that keeps tying into like the social media kind

of aspect of things. Like you willingly sign

up for these platforms and then you get hooked

and you can't leave and you try to find an exit

and it's another hallway. It's another social

media platform that you end up running into.

Yeah, that's me just trying to like set my alarm

and put my phone down for the night. And I'm

like, just five more minutes. Right. Just a few

more minutes. Just watch this one more. I'll

wait until. 12 .30? Right. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. Well, I guess get off your phones, guys.

It's the moral of the story. Get off your phones.

Go touch grass. Go touch some goddamn grass.

Unless you're super allergic and have allergies

like me, maybe just stay inside for a little

bit longer. Just until the summertime. Just wait

until everything stops pollinating because it's

trying to kill you. You know, unfortunately.

It's okay. I'll live. So that's our conclusion

of our part two of our Grimly Riffick collaboration.

Grimly Riffick is really good. So sweet. Well,

thank you for enduring our bullshit during this

episode. Thank you for enduring my bullshit during

this episode. You're welcome. You had less bullshit

than we did, but, like, okay. Yes, you're welcome.

It was a pleasure. It was an absolute pleasure.

Yeah, no, this was really fun. I really, I mean,

yeah, maybe we'll, I think we talked about maybe

doing the sequel at some point. Yeah. Yeah, see

if people want us to do the sequel or if everyone

hates it. They're like, who are these bitches?

Why are they on your podcast? I understand it.

We do understand. We get it. We're not for everybody.

It's okay. But that's fine. But yeah, thanks

for having us, Brandon. For sure. Pull up again.

We will. Absolutely. Always. Do y 'all want to

say the parting? Keep it spooky? Catchphrase,

always keep it spooky. Always keep it spooky.

Is there not a lead up? But in the meantime,

remember. Always keep it spooky. Always keep

it spooky.

Tunnel Rat Tartare (Grave Encounters) feat. Grimly

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